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(10,396 posts)The photo of NGs being issued weapons and ammo in front of our Capitol brought this to mind. Rank and file are NEVER issued weapons unless it is for real. One of the following examples will illustrate why. I was on the DMZ for a year. About three months of that time I was in the secure Message Center, by virtue of the fact I could type, by virtue of the fact I took typing in HS to be closer to the opposite sex, but I digress. My time in the Message Center included a daily courier service to Panmunjom with a pouch containing who knows what. I carried a .45 and my copilot carried an M16. Both were checked at the gate to Panmunjom or officially, The Joint Security Area or JSA and reissued for the return trip to HQ. The weapons were returned to the arms room and reissued each day for the run. No one was ever allowed to walk around with a weapon. Looks like I saved one of those issue cards for your review.
Rank and file are NEVER issued weapons unless it is for real. Other than for official duties as above, I was issued an M16 four times.
#1. Japan Airlines Flight 351. There were no fixed wing aircraft allowed over the DMZ. March 31, 1970 we all heard a jet overhead and saw him go overhead. We could not tell what type of aircraft it was. I vividly remember saying to myself, oh shit. And sure enough we went on alert and were all issued our weapons and ammo. https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Japan_Airlines_Flight_351
#2. April, 1970 three North Korean infiltrators were killed and five South Korean soldiers wounded. I happened to have been CQ, Charge of Quarters that night when some ambulances carried some dead bodies out of our compound, thankfully I didnt see them. Weapons and ammo issued.
#3. One day we went on alert because the North Koreans ambushed some soldiers at JSA. Not a notable incident like the one later in 1976 when they killed two, but it could have been. Weapons and ammo issued. https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Korean_axe_murder_incident
#4. Now the point. The grunts that patrolled the DMZ of course were armed, issued and returned daily, as well as forced to empty all ammo at the range when coming off the DMZ. One day, some guy took his M16 back to his barracks and emptied it there. I dont remember if anyone was killed, but we went on alert, weapons and ammo issued because no one knew what was going on.
Soldiers are as nuts as the general population. Thats why the push to allow weapon carry on military bases is a terrible idea. Truly funny side note. I arrived on the DMZ late on a Saturday night. I was awakened at dawn Sunday morning by .50 caliber fire, lots of gunfire, and assumed I was about to die. It was those grunts empting their weapons at the range. Funny story huh?