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StarfishSaver

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12. Pardons don't have to be written or signed to be valid

Reply to C_U_L8R (Reply #7)

Tue Jan 19, 2021, 09:52 AM

Jan 2021

Last edited Tue Jan 19, 2021, 10:23 AM - Edit history (1)

But there does have to be some evidence that it was granted. So a president would need to put it in writing or record it - especially if it's to be invoked after their term ends and it's too late for them to "regrant" the pardon if the previous one is found to be invalid.

Most likely, they would forward it to the Justice Department but just wouldn't include it on the publicly-releases list of pardons."

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Is there a historic prescedent for sercet pardons? Have they occured before? [View all] FSogol Jan 2021 OP

No clue. jimfields33 Jan 2021 #1

Legal in theory. In practice, a court would have to be convinced it was valid. unblock Jan 2021 #6

Couldn't find anything federal, but in South Dakota, unblock Jan 2021 #2

'fine tradition' empedocles Jan 2021 #3

No dalton99a Jan 2021 #4

Perhaps you could research it. TwilightZone Jan 2021 #5

The point of forums like DU is to gain other people's knowledge and experience. I was hoping someone FSogol Jan 2021 #10

Wouldn't the pardon have to be executed in some official way C_U_L8R Jan 2021 #7

Yes, it can't just be stated there was one obamanut2012 Jan 2021 #9

Pardons don't have to be written or signed to be valid StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #12

We don't know. Because they were SECRET!!! StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #8

Legal or not his pardon power disappears at noon tomorrow. He'll have to prove the pardon was issued FSogol Jan 2021 #11

True StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #13

How would I know? Iggo Jan 2021 #14

I do not believe that they exist, tbh, this is a lot of bloviating Tarc Jan 2021 #15