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BlueTsunami2018

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2. 2009 was the time for that.

Fri Jan 22, 2021, 09:52 PM

Jan 2021

That was when it would have been most effective because the Liebermans and Nelsons of the world wouldn’t have the leverage a Manchin has now.

How much egg would be on their faces if they nuked the filibuster and still couldn’t get anything done? Because that’s what would happen.

Then the left would stay home in 2022 to “send a message”, the GOP takes back the Senate which handcuffs President Biden completely, his administration is seen as a failure, Nikki Haley or whomever wins in 2024 and the right wingers go insane with nothing to stop them.

Make them actually have to stand there and filibuster. End the non-filibuster filibustering. That’s the best move as things stand. It’s far too risky to go full on right now.

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'Hell, even David Brooks thinks Democrats should absolutely kill the filibuster" [View all] whathehell Jan 2021 OP

The fillibuster actually hurts both parties. Renew Deal Jan 2021 #1

2009 was the time for that. BlueTsunami2018 Jan 2021 #2

I disagree..I think it's time for Democrats to act boldly -- whathehell Jan 2021 #5

But we already know Manchin and probably others aren't going to go for it. BlueTsunami2018 Jan 2021 #7

mcconnell and repubs think so too. who does not think so? nt msongs Jan 2021 #3

Apparently, a number of Democrats.. whathehell Jan 2021 #6

Yup. Another step in his loss of conservative creds. nt LAS14 Jan 2021 #4