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In reply to the discussion: HOLY (cow) DID YOU READ THIS FROM WAPO. [View all]nam78_two
(17,745 posts)122. I was alluding to Google/FB's model as data harvesting not identification of seditionists etc
Last edited Sat Jan 23, 2021, 03:15 PM - Edit history (1)
I've come to think of "harvesting data" as gathering information about users and selling it to advertisers, etc. In other words, FB's business model. That's different from the platform being used to commit a felony and then being compelled to identify the felonious poster. If I'm wrong about any of this, somebody please correct me. Anyway, that's why I quit FB long ago.That is quite correct. But my point was that these actual lunatics would make a case for expanded surveillance. It is clear that legitimate national security related reasons exist for such surveillance. However, it is possible that irresponsible/sleazy industries that are already harvesting data from normal people, eschewing permission altogether, will be emboldened. Now they can say "Hey we are not just selling tacky ads. We are advancing community safety." And I just don't buy it with companies like FB and Google. I am reading this book called Surveillance Capitalism so that theme is running in my head..Aggressive expansion into people's private spaces using bullshit rationales.
Edit: Is identifying a FB poster the same thing as harvesting data? If the poster's intent was criminal, it seems to me that a federal warrant requiring FB to cough up a name or names is (um) warranted.
Oh no-I did not mean that sort of thing. That is not data harvesting. As you point out, if anyone posts sedition plots or threats of physical violence on the net, they should pretty much expect to get on the radar of law enforcement. But I was referring to the aggressive data collection/tracking practices inflicted on random people merely going about their lives. I worry that FB, Google and
other annoying surveillance capitalist firms will expand their powers using this sort of thing.
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Don't count on that on the Senate impeachment trail. The conviction needs to be in the state and
still_one
Jan 2021
#12
A little bit of both. That is why it is confusing. The master minds using the dim wits
IsItJustMe
Jan 2021
#83
yup. If the Con isn't convicted, and these seditionists prosecuted, next time they will be much more
onetexan
Jan 2021
#91
Since the senators and reps have tear gas hoods under the seats, I would guess the building
LiberalArkie
Jan 2021
#107
It should be easy to determine, I assume their names are not listed for a reason
LeftInTX
Jan 2021
#25
i certainly hope they are using search warrants to get at whoever sent those messages.......
Takket
Jan 2021
#28
And THAT, boys and girls, is how close we came to the overthrow of our government.
Stinky The Clown
Jan 2021
#38
Maybe nothing has happened with Boebert yet as they are building a case against her
Quixote1818
Jan 2021
#55
Thomas Edward Caldwell, insurrectionist suspect from Virginia, active in local Republican politics
mahatmakanejeeves
Jan 2021
#71
This Virginia delegate, LaRock R-Hamilton sounds like he fits right in with them!
LeftInTX
Jan 2021
#78
Yes this story of capture, seal, and gas was upstaged by the AG replacement story last night
bucolic_frolic
Jan 2021
#94
Horrifying. There has to be major prosecutions and lifetime sentences for this evil
LymphocyteLover
Jan 2021
#103
This is what happens when hate groups like Oath Keepers are allowed to flourish.
LaMouffette
Jan 2021
#111
I was alluding to Google/FB's model as data harvesting not identification of seditionists etc
nam78_two
Jan 2021
#122
Now we truly know what sedition truly looks like. Lock them in and gas? No peace,
SWBTATTReg
Jan 2021
#123
I read it. And the FBI should be able to tell who the (wo)man inside was
McCamy Taylor
Jan 2021
#131
Sounds like it to me.. But..could have been a cop..Remember the one who killed himself?
LeftInTX
Jan 2021
#145