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OnDoutside

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4. I fear the Shinners will drag us into another Civil War. Whatever the merits of uniting the island,
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 01:22 PM
Jan 2021

Last edited Thu Jan 28, 2021, 04:09 AM - Edit history (1)

Sinn Fein only care about their number one goal, a United Ireland. They will do anything to achieve that, including barefaced lies and deceptions. As a Republic of Ireland citizen, I'm ok with where the ROI/NI relationship is now. Forcing the Unionists into a United Ireland is fraught with danger, when they clearly aren't ready and the relationship between the extremes of both sides is as hateful as it ever was, but just bubbling beneath the surface in an uneasy truce. They're a heck of a long way off from coming to a UI in a spirit of friendliness. If I was a Unionist, I wouldn't trust that a Shinner/Nationalist majority wouldn't take retribution out on the Protestant minority (as it would be). As a Southerner, I don't want to draw that shitfest on to us. And that's aside from the huge economic cost. In any case it's 100 years anniversary in 2022, and the difference in mindset between North and South is huge.

And the consequence of a Scottish Independence referendum passing, is massive pressure piled on the UK Government to hold a Border Poll in the North. It wouldn't be the first time a British Government just threw their hands up and walked away, leaving a trail of destruction behind.


EDIT : For Clarity, Shinner is an informal term here in Ireland. The literal pronunciation of the word Sinn in Irish is "Shin" !!! Actually Fein is pronounced "Fain". In the same way other parties have their name shortened eg

Fianna Fail (Failers, actually Fail is pronounced Fawl, so Fawlers),

Fine Gael (Gaelers, Gael is pronounced "Gale" in Irish).

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Brexit Turbineguy Jan 2021 #1
oh yes, bdamomma Jan 2021 #29
Hope I'm alive to see them turn into an impoverishes island malaise Jan 2021 #2
They've never come to terms with losing the empire. In fact, I would suggest part of the reason OnDoutside Jan 2021 #5
You are correct - all those Eton, Winchester and St Pauls boys yearn for empire malaise Jan 2021 #6
The natives have nuclear weapons. Dawson Leery Jan 2021 #9
Hold onto yer hats, lads ! OnDoutside Jan 2021 #14
No one has ever practiced slavery like the Brits Drahthaardogs Jan 2021 #17
Johnson is Trump lite dlk Jan 2021 #3
I fear the Shinners will drag us into another Civil War. Whatever the merits of uniting the island, OnDoutside Jan 2021 #4
Yeah. India...Partition Day, 1947. roamer65 Jan 2021 #7
Yes, and much of the colonial countries in Africa. If you asked me in the 80s, who wanted OnDoutside Jan 2021 #12
I thought we didn't allow denigrating terms here? flotsam Jan 2021 #15
No it isn't. OnDoutside Jan 2021 #21
This flotsam Jan 2021 #23
I live here. OnDoutside Jan 2021 #28
The half island that borrowed and stole everything they have from someone else Dawson Leery Jan 2021 #8
If the UK all broke up into individual nations, Yavin4 Jan 2021 #10
Yes. If they meet the criteria: dalton99a Jan 2021 #11
Yes, though I think England would find a lot of obstacles in their way, and all the old cozy OnDoutside Jan 2021 #13
Never knew there was this much British hate here. MicaelS Jan 2021 #16
Look to history Lars39 Jan 2021 #18
So why don't we also see great hatred here for Spain? DavidDvorkin Jan 2021 #25
Perhaps the people here have been personally affected by the UK Lars39 Jan 2021 #26
Probably because Turin_C3PO Jan 2021 #27
To be fair, I don't think hate is the operative word. Schadenfreude is more accurate. OnDoutside Jan 2021 #22
I've seen it here before DavidDvorkin Jan 2021 #24
Looks like the final gasps of an empire. Xolodno Jan 2021 #19
There goes Air Strip One. Kid Berwyn Jan 2021 #20
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