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In reply to the discussion: I fucking hate White People [View all]Celerity
(53,595 posts)81. I will take what is White Fragility for 1400 Alex (RIP)
'Interrupt The Systems': Robin DiAngelo On 'White Fragility' And Anti-Racism
https://www.npr.org/2020/06/17/879136931/interrupt-the-systems-robin-diangelo-on-white-fragility-and-anti-racism

If you're white, you may not think of yourself as racist. Maybe you hardly think about race at all. But Robin DiAngelo, the author of White Fragility, says white people need to think about how they fit into racist systems if they want to be anti-racist. She calls for a more nuanced and informed understanding of racism so white people can take accountability for the ways they benefit from these structures:
"The simplistic idea that racism is limited to individual intentional acts committed by unkind people is at the root of virtually all white defensiveness on this topic," writes DiAngelo in White Fragility. Here are some tips and takeaways from our interview with DiAngelo to help you combat racism:
Start by reflecting on your own experience of being a white person.
"We live in a society that turns race over to people of color. They have a race, and we're just people. And so we see ourselves as outside of race," says DiAngelo. "If we can start our work by reflecting on our own experiences specifically as white people and not only as objective individuals outside of race, there's so much insight to be gained there. Start by asking yourself: What does it mean to be white? How has being white shaped my life?"
We need to change our definition of racism.
(Merriam-Webster recently agreed to revise its dictionary's definition.) It's important to recognize that all white people have been socialized into racist systems and it's inevitable that we all have blind spots, says DiAngelo. It is akin to swimming with a current, rather than against it. Instead of asking if you've been shaped by these systems, ask yourself how you've been shaped by them.
We're complicit in racist structures even if they go against our values or beliefs............
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https://www.npr.org/2020/06/17/879136931/interrupt-the-systems-robin-diangelo-on-white-fragility-and-anti-racism

If you're white, you may not think of yourself as racist. Maybe you hardly think about race at all. But Robin DiAngelo, the author of White Fragility, says white people need to think about how they fit into racist systems if they want to be anti-racist. She calls for a more nuanced and informed understanding of racism so white people can take accountability for the ways they benefit from these structures:
"The simplistic idea that racism is limited to individual intentional acts committed by unkind people is at the root of virtually all white defensiveness on this topic," writes DiAngelo in White Fragility. Here are some tips and takeaways from our interview with DiAngelo to help you combat racism:
Start by reflecting on your own experience of being a white person.
"We live in a society that turns race over to people of color. They have a race, and we're just people. And so we see ourselves as outside of race," says DiAngelo. "If we can start our work by reflecting on our own experiences specifically as white people and not only as objective individuals outside of race, there's so much insight to be gained there. Start by asking yourself: What does it mean to be white? How has being white shaped my life?"
We need to change our definition of racism.
(Merriam-Webster recently agreed to revise its dictionary's definition.) It's important to recognize that all white people have been socialized into racist systems and it's inevitable that we all have blind spots, says DiAngelo. It is akin to swimming with a current, rather than against it. Instead of asking if you've been shaped by these systems, ask yourself how you've been shaped by them.
We're complicit in racist structures even if they go against our values or beliefs............
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I've not read Candide. If this was the best of all possible worlds, tho, I would've had the time.
Bucky
Jan 2021
#15
So what will happen if someone posted the same thread with a different color than white?
cwydro
Jan 2021
#80
And yet you seem fine using "Black" and "Brown" and "Other" as identifiers
StarfishSaver
Jan 2021
#61
Racists have to be a member of the race that has systemic control. Without that it's bigotry.
Celerity
Jan 2021
#94
So non-whites cannot be racist or bigoted? Or are not by virtue of their non-whiteness? Or what?
Hekate
Jan 2021
#184
Where did I say they couldn't be bigoted? I said bigotry is what discriminatory and/or hateful
Celerity
Jan 2021
#186
Last time I checked Joe Biden was white...just saying, broad brush paints broadly.
cayugafalls
Jan 2021
#13
It seems the easiest course would have been to just ignore it and then it would have gone away
StarfishSaver
Jan 2021
#119
I'm Chinese let me start an "I hate Asians" thread, see how well that plays here
JuJuYoshida
Jan 2021
#45
The expression of raw emotion without the ease of a buffer scares some people.
Solly Mack
Jan 2021
#189
The anger, defensiveness and outright nastiness in his thread from people who are offended by the OP
StarfishSaver
Jan 2021
#199
I've seen it here before regarding racial equality/equity, misogyny, homophobia.
Solly Mack
Jan 2021
#206
Thank you. Funny, either we're privileged or we're fragile. How can we be both?
cwydro
Jan 2021
#117
Why do you think a concept can't be discussed unless it "creates more fairness"?
StarfishSaver
Jan 2021
#203
Why should black folk pull our punches because telling the truth makes some white people defensive?
StarfishSaver
Jan 2021
#212
You don't seem to understand the difference between seeing people's race
StarfishSaver
Jan 2021
#168
I didn't know they were black until I started bragging about how I helped some black people
EffieBlack
Jan 2021
#178
I believe you knew what the poster meant, even if the phrase is not to your liking.
phylny
Jan 2021
#139
You probably don't mean it that way, but saying you "don't see color" is offensive
StarfishSaver
Jan 2021
#110
My post to you was very kind and an effort to help you see this from a different perspective
StarfishSaver
Jan 2021
#144
You saw this family's color well enough to come here and announce you didn't notice they were mixed
EffieBlack
Jan 2021
#165
This is the I hate white people thread if you want to hate all, start your own thread. 💫
aidbo
Jan 2021
#158
This kind of juvenile sentiment discredits all the good causes liberals/progressives stand for
gulliver
Jan 2021
#180
I grew up in affluent 99 44/100 pure Ivory Soap Straight Christian White Boy World.
hunter
Jan 2021
#218