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Miguelito Loveless

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3. The Pope has already allowed this

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Sun Jan 31, 2021, 04:12 PM

Jan 2021

https://www.vaticannews.va/en/vatican-city/news/2020-12/vatican-cdf-note-covid-vaccine-morality-abortion.html

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A 70 yr old friend of mine is not planning to get the COVID vaccine. [View all] milestogo Jan 2021 OP

As far as I know the vaccine is made of antibodies from those who got Covid. DLCWIdem Jan 2021 #1

It is not made from antibodies Ms. Toad Jan 2021 #33

only the mRNA lapfog_1 Jan 2021 #2

Thank you, thats very helpful. milestogo Jan 2021 #7

mRNA vaccines are not made from stem cells. LisaL Jan 2021 #11

both the Moderna and the Pfizer lapfog_1 Jan 2021 #20

Absolutely false. LisaL Jan 2021 #13

I should have said "mRNA is used to manipulate stem cells" lapfog_1 Jan 2021 #19

Vaccines are not used for that purpose. LisaL Jan 2021 #21

none the less, the press has associated the technology with stem cells lapfog_1 Jan 2021 #22

mRNA vaccines never relied on stem cells. Blue_true Jan 2021 #46

The Pope has already allowed this Miguelito Loveless Jan 2021 #3

It doesn't matter. mRNA vaccines never relied on stem cells. nt Blue_true Jan 2021 #47

But that's just a fact of science Miguelito Loveless Jan 2021 #59

I really am not interested in convincing them. I accept that I am in a moral struggle with them Blue_true Jan 2021 #62

Stem cells were not used in the development or manufacture of the existing vaccines. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2021 #4

That's true for the only two it lists, the Pfizer & the Moderna vaccines, but at least 5 others do Celerity Jan 2021 #15

Those are the only two currently approved for use in the US The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2021 #17

The Johnson & Johnson (likely soon approved in the US) and others do use them in the manufacturing Celerity Jan 2021 #24

If they're OK with the Pope they should be OK with the OP's friend. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2021 #25

Yes, the first two should be fine for the friend of the OP, some of the others, no. Celerity Jan 2021 #27

Most reports I've seen indicate that stem cell lines were used Ms. Toad Jan 2021 #35

Even if no stem cells matt819 Jan 2021 #5

I think so too MustLoveBeagles Jan 2021 #61

Time magazine had a great article on the development of the vaccines. Neither of the two.... EarnestPutz Jan 2021 #6

mrna vaccines Pfizer, Moderna do not use stem cells in production. They do use cells in testing. Pobeka Jan 2021 #8

Not in production - Ms. Toad Jan 2021 #39

The issue is that even if something uses a computer program that mimics Blue_true Jan 2021 #48

Facts matter. Ms. Toad Jan 2021 #58

mRNA vaccines were not designed from anything involving stem cells. Blue_true Jan 2021 #60

You may disagree with whether the distinction matters Ms. Toad Jan 2021 #64

You make a reasonable point. Blue_true Feb 2021 #67

When you're talking about moral beliefs it's a tough question. Ms. Toad Feb 2021 #68

You posted some philosophical points for me to consider. I guess it is a fuzzy Blue_true Feb 2021 #69

I don't remember how close the connection with Regeneron was - Ms. Toad Feb 2021 #70

Abortion opponents protest COVID-19 vaccines' use of fetal cells Celerity Jan 2021 #9

Thank you. milestogo Jan 2021 #12

yw Celerity Jan 2021 #16

Yet, those same people was ok with Trump taking Regeneron and getting it to his pals that got sick. Blue_true Jan 2021 #49

Pfizer and Moderna are not made from stem cells. LisaL Jan 2021 #10

While they are not made from stem cells- Ms. Toad Jan 2021 #41

The fucking Pope got the vaccine ismnotwasm Jan 2021 #14

Yes, but he's a liberal lefty Argentine. JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2021 #42

My guess is Benedict got the vaccine shots. nt Blue_true Jan 2021 #50

Ha! ismnotwasm Jan 2021 #63

Ugh. These people. Squinch Jan 2021 #18

I wish there was a vaccine or cure that made people that took it Blue_true Jan 2021 #52

They deny their God, those who reject the means made by men made in the sanatanadharma Jan 2021 #23

Excellent observation - applies to a lot of things. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2021 #26

As a Warm Deist, a core of my beliefs is than nothing that we can possibly Blue_true Jan 2021 #54

Pope Francis suggests people have moral obligation to take coronavirus vaccine dalton99a Jan 2021 #28

Having a scientist for Pope turned out to be a good thing. nt Hekate Jan 2021 #53

No vaccine no visit northlake9 Jan 2021 #29

same here We have not been in the same room with any of his family since yellowdogintexas Jan 2021 #31

Sometimes people who are just plain scared of needles Mr.Bill Jan 2021 #30

How can someone be covered in tattoes and bs cared of needles? LisaL Jan 2021 #36

I don't know, Mr.Bill Jan 2021 #38

How did they get those tattos? LisaL Jan 2021 #40

Honestly, I think a small percentage of them Mr.Bill Jan 2021 #43

it's her funeral. maxsolomon Jan 2021 #32

I have gotten to the point with those people that even such a blunt assessment Blue_true Jan 2021 #55

there are going to be a % that refuse no matter what. maxsolomon Jan 2021 #65

Ask her BGBD Jan 2021 #34

Great news, more vaccine for someone who hates Kool Aid!!!! winstars Jan 2021 #37

When trump allegedly had COVID... mmbrevo Jan 2021 #44

Yes he was, Regeneron. Blue_true Jan 2021 #56

*sigh* mmbrevo Jan 2021 #57

I believe the only Covid treatment that involves stem cells is the Blue_true Jan 2021 #45

Your friend is an idiot Yeehah Jan 2021 #51

Your response shows your intolerance, insults me, and is totally unhelpful. milestogo Jan 2021 #66