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In reply to the discussion: A 70 yr old friend of mine is not planning to get the COVID vaccine. [View all]Celerity
(54,798 posts)24. The Johnson & Johnson (likely soon approved in the US) and others do use them in the manufacturing
process (see my origianl reply) plus both the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines used them in testing leading up to the development (so I was too broad in my agreeing with that part of your reply). That said, the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines do not use them in their manufacture though and Catholic Organisations say those two are not morally compromised.
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/how-cells-taken-decades-old-fetal-tissue-are-used-covid-n1242740

AstraZenecas COVID-19 vaccine is in Phase 3 trials in the US and also uses them for manufacture.
In four of the vaccines, the human fetal cells are used as miniature factories to generate vast quantities of adenoviruses, disabled so that they cannot replicate, that are used as vehicles to ferry genes from the novel coronavirus that causes COVID-19. When the adenoviruses are given as a vaccine, recipients cells begin to produce proteins from the coronavirus, hopefully triggering a protective immune response.
The fifth vaccine, which has shown promise in monkeys and is headed for human trials as soon as this summer, is what is known as a protein subunit vaccine. Researchers at the University of Pittsburgh use HEK-293 cells to manufacture the coronavirus spike proteina vital part of its structurewhich is used to trigger an immune response. The vaccine is delivered through a skin patch with 400 tiny needles.
The fifth vaccine, which has shown promise in monkeys and is headed for human trials as soon as this summer, is what is known as a protein subunit vaccine. Researchers at the University of Pittsburgh use HEK-293 cells to manufacture the coronavirus spike proteina vital part of its structurewhich is used to trigger an immune response. The vaccine is delivered through a skin patch with 400 tiny needles.

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A 70 yr old friend of mine is not planning to get the COVID vaccine. [View all]
milestogo
Jan 2021
OP
I really am not interested in convincing them. I accept that I am in a moral struggle with them
Blue_true
Jan 2021
#62
Stem cells were not used in the development or manufacture of the existing vaccines.
The Velveteen Ocelot
Jan 2021
#4
That's true for the only two it lists, the Pfizer & the Moderna vaccines, but at least 5 others do
Celerity
Jan 2021
#15
The Johnson & Johnson (likely soon approved in the US) and others do use them in the manufacturing
Celerity
Jan 2021
#24
If they're OK with the Pope they should be OK with the OP's friend.
The Velveteen Ocelot
Jan 2021
#25
Yes, the first two should be fine for the friend of the OP, some of the others, no.
Celerity
Jan 2021
#27
Time magazine had a great article on the development of the vaccines. Neither of the two....
EarnestPutz
Jan 2021
#6
mrna vaccines Pfizer, Moderna do not use stem cells in production. They do use cells in testing.
Pobeka
Jan 2021
#8
You posted some philosophical points for me to consider. I guess it is a fuzzy
Blue_true
Feb 2021
#69
Yet, those same people was ok with Trump taking Regeneron and getting it to his pals that got sick.
Blue_true
Jan 2021
#49
Pope Francis suggests people have moral obligation to take coronavirus vaccine
dalton99a
Jan 2021
#28
same here We have not been in the same room with any of his family since
yellowdogintexas
Jan 2021
#31
I have gotten to the point with those people that even such a blunt assessment
Blue_true
Jan 2021
#55