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28. Pope Francis suggests people have moral obligation to take coronavirus vaccine

Sun Jan 31, 2021, 05:02 PM

Jan 2021

https://www.ncronline.org/news/vatican/pope-francis-suggests-people-have-moral-obligation-take-coronavirus-vaccine
Pope Francis suggests people have moral obligation to take coronavirus vaccine
Jan 11, 2021
by Joshua J. McElwee

Rome — Pope Francis suggested that people have a moral obligation to receive one of the new coronavirus vaccines as soon as possible, revealing in a new interview that he expects to get his own first dose this week.

"I believe that morally everyone must take the vaccine," the pontiff said in a Jan. 10 interview for Italy's TG5 news program. "It is the moral choice because it is about your life but also the lives of others."

The pope, who said he has already made an appointment with the Vatican's health service for his own inoculation, also lamented that some people are saying they will not take a vaccine.

"I do not understand why some say that this could be a dangerous vaccine," said Francis. "If the doctors are presenting this to you as a thing that will go well and doesn't have any special dangers, why not take it?"

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https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/14/europe/pope-francis-covid-19-vaccine-intl/index.html
Pope Francis and former Pope Benedict get first dose of Covid-19 vaccine
By Hada Messia, CNN
Updated 8:49 AM ET, Thu January 14, 2021

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A 70 yr old friend of mine is not planning to get the COVID vaccine. [View all] milestogo Jan 2021 OP

As far as I know the vaccine is made of antibodies from those who got Covid. DLCWIdem Jan 2021 #1

It is not made from antibodies Ms. Toad Jan 2021 #33

only the mRNA lapfog_1 Jan 2021 #2

Thank you, thats very helpful. milestogo Jan 2021 #7

mRNA vaccines are not made from stem cells. LisaL Jan 2021 #11

both the Moderna and the Pfizer lapfog_1 Jan 2021 #20

Absolutely false. LisaL Jan 2021 #13

I should have said "mRNA is used to manipulate stem cells" lapfog_1 Jan 2021 #19

Vaccines are not used for that purpose. LisaL Jan 2021 #21

none the less, the press has associated the technology with stem cells lapfog_1 Jan 2021 #22

mRNA vaccines never relied on stem cells. Blue_true Jan 2021 #46

The Pope has already allowed this Miguelito Loveless Jan 2021 #3

It doesn't matter. mRNA vaccines never relied on stem cells. nt Blue_true Jan 2021 #47

But that's just a fact of science Miguelito Loveless Jan 2021 #59

I really am not interested in convincing them. I accept that I am in a moral struggle with them Blue_true Jan 2021 #62

Stem cells were not used in the development or manufacture of the existing vaccines. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2021 #4

That's true for the only two it lists, the Pfizer & the Moderna vaccines, but at least 5 others do Celerity Jan 2021 #15

Those are the only two currently approved for use in the US The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2021 #17

The Johnson & Johnson (likely soon approved in the US) and others do use them in the manufacturing Celerity Jan 2021 #24

If they're OK with the Pope they should be OK with the OP's friend. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2021 #25

Yes, the first two should be fine for the friend of the OP, some of the others, no. Celerity Jan 2021 #27

Most reports I've seen indicate that stem cell lines were used Ms. Toad Jan 2021 #35

Even if no stem cells matt819 Jan 2021 #5

I think so too MustLoveBeagles Jan 2021 #61

Time magazine had a great article on the development of the vaccines. Neither of the two.... EarnestPutz Jan 2021 #6

mrna vaccines Pfizer, Moderna do not use stem cells in production. They do use cells in testing. Pobeka Jan 2021 #8

Not in production - Ms. Toad Jan 2021 #39

The issue is that even if something uses a computer program that mimics Blue_true Jan 2021 #48

Facts matter. Ms. Toad Jan 2021 #58

mRNA vaccines were not designed from anything involving stem cells. Blue_true Jan 2021 #60

You may disagree with whether the distinction matters Ms. Toad Jan 2021 #64

You make a reasonable point. Blue_true Feb 2021 #67

When you're talking about moral beliefs it's a tough question. Ms. Toad Feb 2021 #68

You posted some philosophical points for me to consider. I guess it is a fuzzy Blue_true Feb 2021 #69

I don't remember how close the connection with Regeneron was - Ms. Toad Feb 2021 #70

Abortion opponents protest COVID-19 vaccines' use of fetal cells Celerity Jan 2021 #9

Thank you. milestogo Jan 2021 #12

yw Celerity Jan 2021 #16

Yet, those same people was ok with Trump taking Regeneron and getting it to his pals that got sick. Blue_true Jan 2021 #49

Pfizer and Moderna are not made from stem cells. LisaL Jan 2021 #10

While they are not made from stem cells- Ms. Toad Jan 2021 #41

The fucking Pope got the vaccine ismnotwasm Jan 2021 #14

Yes, but he's a liberal lefty Argentine. JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2021 #42

My guess is Benedict got the vaccine shots. nt Blue_true Jan 2021 #50

Ha! ismnotwasm Jan 2021 #63

Ugh. These people. Squinch Jan 2021 #18

I wish there was a vaccine or cure that made people that took it Blue_true Jan 2021 #52

They deny their God, those who reject the means made by men made in the sanatanadharma Jan 2021 #23

Excellent observation - applies to a lot of things. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2021 #26

As a Warm Deist, a core of my beliefs is than nothing that we can possibly Blue_true Jan 2021 #54

Pope Francis suggests people have moral obligation to take coronavirus vaccine dalton99a Jan 2021 #28

Having a scientist for Pope turned out to be a good thing. nt Hekate Jan 2021 #53

No vaccine no visit northlake9 Jan 2021 #29

same here We have not been in the same room with any of his family since yellowdogintexas Jan 2021 #31

Sometimes people who are just plain scared of needles Mr.Bill Jan 2021 #30

How can someone be covered in tattoes and bs cared of needles? LisaL Jan 2021 #36

I don't know, Mr.Bill Jan 2021 #38

How did they get those tattos? LisaL Jan 2021 #40

Honestly, I think a small percentage of them Mr.Bill Jan 2021 #43

it's her funeral. maxsolomon Jan 2021 #32

I have gotten to the point with those people that even such a blunt assessment Blue_true Jan 2021 #55

there are going to be a % that refuse no matter what. maxsolomon Jan 2021 #65

Ask her BGBD Jan 2021 #34

Great news, more vaccine for someone who hates Kool Aid!!!! winstars Jan 2021 #37

When trump allegedly had COVID... mmbrevo Jan 2021 #44

Yes he was, Regeneron. Blue_true Jan 2021 #56

*sigh* mmbrevo Jan 2021 #57

I believe the only Covid treatment that involves stem cells is the Blue_true Jan 2021 #45

Your friend is an idiot Yeehah Jan 2021 #51

Your response shows your intolerance, insults me, and is totally unhelpful. milestogo Jan 2021 #66