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Mike 03

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21. It's worth thinking about. Ezra Klein has been arguing that if we were
Wed Feb 3, 2021, 05:48 PM
Feb 2021

more motivated by our dislike for the GOP than our affection for our policies, we would transform from being a political party to an identitarian party (like the Republicans are), meaning we would vote like hell in bigger numbers, we would vote in every election like our lives depend on it, because "winning" would be more important to us, almost like fans of a football team need compulsively to win every week. He's talking about our primitive wiring here, and what decades of studies and also Game Theory can teach us about adjusting our party a little bit to be more effective.

Democrats (on-the-street, average Dems) would be as obsessed with politics as even average Republicans are.

The dark side of this is, obviously, that we become a party whose energy is derived from opposing something, instead of our trademark reputation for being the party of hope and regeneration. But I don't think it's wise to dismiss this theory out of hand, because we only need to look at the Republican party to see how well it can work. We would play the long game better.

The Republicans are sure making it easy for us to coalesce around the idea that the GOP is the anti-Democracy party, which makes our job so much easier in terms of deciding what we are for and what we are against.

One of the panelists on MSNBC just literally said what you wrote: Marjorie Taylor Greene is the face of the new Republican Party.

Even if she's gone, we can probably still make this stick with people like Gatez, Jordan, Cruz, Hawley.

But Taylor-Greene is most certainly a lightning rod, almost a caricature of what we have noticed all along about the GOP under Trump.

So I wouldn't dismiss your point at all. Even if she goes, your essential point is important IMO.

Not unless you want another Trump. redstatebluegirl Feb 2021 #1
I would rather run against a Q Anon nut than a "normal" Republican. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2021 #3
I never thought in a million years Trump would get elected in 2016. redstatebluegirl Feb 2021 #5
I don't think so. You cancel them when you can... VarryOn Feb 2021 #2
+1 Laelth Feb 2021 #6
Who would you rather be the face of the Republican party-Marjorie Taylor Greene or Mitt Romney? DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2021 #7
We dealt with Mr. Binders-Full-of-Women years ago... VarryOn Feb 2021 #10
Mitt Romney. Tommymac Feb 2021 #11
There are 140 Marjorie Taylor Greenes in the House. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2021 #12
No Alpeduez21 Feb 2021 #4
Probably best to get rid of her if possible; but, she's not helping GOPers. Hoyt Feb 2021 #8
MTGQ Goonch Feb 2021 #9
I'm assuming she's armed and dangerous, so not worth the risk. Qutzupalotl Feb 2021 #13
She just says out loud or to be more precise.... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2021 #14
The problem is people may be apt to believe her. Qutzupalotl Feb 2021 #19
She ain't going anywhere. This all leads to nowhere. BlueNProud Feb 2021 #15
That's actually good for us. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2021 #16
A counter-argument to anyone accusing AOC of being radical. Sneederbunk Feb 2021 #17
AOC's views are within any rational person's range of acceptable thought. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2021 #18
The GOP's embrace of her nonsense is pure gold for campaign ads. LanternWaste Feb 2021 #20
It's worth thinking about. Ezra Klein has been arguing that if we were Mike 03 Feb 2021 #21
Not unless she's a pinata without a vote. Aristus Feb 2021 #22
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