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TheFarseer

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125. We simply don't agree on this

Thu Feb 4, 2021, 12:11 AM

Feb 2021

I’m less concerned what letter a person has in parentheses next to their name and more concerned with what policies they are fighting for. I fully understand why we support Joe Manchin in WV but if he was the rep from San Francisco or Manhattan, why shouldn’t we elect someone that is never going to vote with Trump and unequivocally fight climate change, lefty judges and income inequality etc etc?

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Primarying Joe Manchin has to be the dumbest idea in the world. [View all] DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2021 OP

Agreed. What short memories we have. TwilightZone Feb 2021 #1

She tried to primary Manchin in 2018 BGBD Feb 2021 #106

Please list all the Democratic qualities he brings to the table. Hotler Feb 2021 #2

His D gave us the Senate majority. 33taw Feb 2021 #6

Please people who can beat him in a primary AND win in a general election. themaguffin Feb 2021 #11

Touche'! Cha Feb 2021 #102

He votes with Dems at least 50% more than every, single, possible alternative. TwilightZone Feb 2021 #15

That is exactly it! BobTheSubgenius Feb 2021 #66

Right now? EarlG Feb 2021 #28

+1 TwilightZone Feb 2021 #34

Unassailable facts Bradshaw3 Feb 2021 #37

Thank you, EarlG Hekate Feb 2021 #57

+1 nt PunkinPi Feb 2021 #60

+1 nt c-rational Feb 2021 #64

That is one comprehensive post! BobTheSubgenius Feb 2021 #67

+10000 Demsrule86 Feb 2021 #76

Covid relief Dem2 Feb 2021 #29

He still votes with the Dems 75% of the time Drahthaardogs Feb 2021 #40

The "D" after his name in the Senate roster is the most important thing he brings right now StarfishSaver Feb 2021 #48

Find me a Republican that votes with Dems 75 percent of the time. BannonsLiver Feb 2021 #53

How about this...he saved the ACA...without his vote , it would be gone. How about he Demsrule86 Feb 2021 #73

He votes with progressives about 60% of the time, according to Progressive Punch. pnwmom Feb 2021 #97

Progressive Punch doesn't seem very accurate JonLP24 Feb 2021 #115

Manchin represents a state that gave Trump a 40 point margin in 2016 -- pnwmom Feb 2021 #119

Agree. Turin_C3PO Feb 2021 #3

Republicans DO NOT want Bipartisanship, Joe.... ProudMNDemocrat Feb 2021 #4

But his constituents do. TwilightZone Feb 2021 #23

He could vote Turin_C3PO Feb 2021 #39

Manchin and Biden are redefining "bipartisanship." sop Feb 2021 #44

when is he up again? mopinko Feb 2021 #5

He is a senator, gerrymandering is not an issue in the Senate. 33taw Feb 2021 #7

"suppressed" doesn't only mean "gerrymandered." lagomorph777 Feb 2021 #31

Trump won WV by 40 points. TwilightZone Feb 2021 #36

I challenge anyone to come BGBD Feb 2021 #108

2024, if he chooses to run again, and if he has not switched parties by then (which I can see at Celerity Feb 2021 #12

I have seen snarky posts on this forum. I would remind everyone that Manchin is a Democrat and Demsrule86 Feb 2021 #74

I have no idea why you are having a go at me with your usual moderates only need apply Celerity Feb 2021 #100

And lose a Senator. TwilightZone Feb 2021 #16

well, maybe next time run someone more middle of the road. mopinko Feb 2021 #43

Joe is middle of the road and votes with us most times and in all important votes...no other Demsrule86 Feb 2021 #78

LOL BannonsLiver Feb 2021 #49

I live in a red state.... LeftInTX Feb 2021 #52

And then lose that seat and the majority...oh yeah such a great solution...do you really believe Demsrule86 Feb 2021 #75

May I ask where you live? GulfCoast66 Feb 2021 #103

illinois. in '18 i got my sister elected to a county board in a red county. mopinko Feb 2021 #104

Sure. Do you really think most people in WV, KY and Al are just waiting to vote Democratic? GulfCoast66 Feb 2021 #109

it's a new world. mopinko Feb 2021 #110

I hope you are right. But we got hurt in House elections. GulfCoast66 Feb 2021 #111

That group that wants to Primary him wants REpublicans to win JI7 Feb 2021 #8

Yes they sure do! And Sinema too. Budi Feb 2021 #24

Arizona isn't as red as West Virginia JonLP24 Feb 2021 #112

That is exactly right. Demsrule86 Feb 2021 #77

Agreed ebbie15644 Feb 2021 #9

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Feb 2021 #10

If West Virginia really likes him the primary effort will fail. If it succeeds I guess he won't be Autumn Feb 2021 #13

The only person with a D who can win a General Election bottomofthehill Feb 2021 #19

How do you know? Crystal balls are fake. No one knows until it's tried. Autumn Feb 2021 #35

Agree! mountain grammy Feb 2021 #63

And he is the only person in US who can single-handedly sabotage Biden's agenda and doom Fiendish Thingy Feb 2021 #14

Manchin's on board now Wawannabe Feb 2021 #65

Link? Nt Fiendish Thingy Feb 2021 #95

Manchin is onboard with Biden's plan as I told you he would be...and we always need more Demsrule86 Feb 2021 #80

Please post a link where Manchin reversed his position on requiring bipartisan support Fiendish Thingy Feb 2021 #94

Try to keep up. The reconciliation bill is currently working its way through Congress pnwmom Feb 2021 #98

That article is from 30 min. Ago, after my original post Fiendish Thingy Feb 2021 #105

Manchin's support of the reconciliation bill was first written about YESTERDAY. pnwmom Feb 2021 #113

And if Taylor picks up Portman's seat in 2022, Manchin will immediately become irrelevant. Nt Fiendish Thingy Feb 2021 #120

No, he won't. Not at all. It's still better to have him in the Senate than the Republican pnwmom Feb 2021 #121

Probably much wiser to pursue Dem gains in other states for 2022. n/t Mister Ed Feb 2021 #17

Yes. TwilightZone Feb 2021 #21

Yes...that makes so much sense unless your real motive in primarying Democrats is to help Demsrule86 Feb 2021 #81

Agreed! Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #18

I can't tell if the ignorance is intentional or if some simply have no clue. TwilightZone Feb 2021 #20

My thoughts exactly. Election losses do provide clues, R B Garr Feb 2021 #32

so next time try someone more middle of the road. mopinko Feb 2021 #45

I'm not interested in putting a "progressive" in that seat. I just wish we had someone Crunchy Frog Feb 2021 #70

Robert Byrd was a democratic senator from West Virginia forever (50 years, I think?). BComplex Feb 2021 #22

Byrd started serving when West Virginia mostly voted Democratic. THings are different now JI7 Feb 2021 #25

The WV of today is not the WV of Byrd's time. TwilightZone Feb 2021 #26

Also almost half of the DEMOCRATS voted for a prisoner over Obama in the Democratic Primary in 2012 JI7 Feb 2021 #27

I forgot about that. TwilightZone Feb 2021 #33

WV democrats SoCalNative Feb 2021 #41

Yep mcar Feb 2021 #30

100% Happy Hoosier Feb 2021 #38

Agreed! redstatebluegirl Feb 2021 #42

Proportional representation Nasruddin Feb 2021 #46

While we're waving magic wands I'd like a house on Maui. BannonsLiver Feb 2021 #54

The country will break apart before that happens, Crunchy Frog Feb 2021 #71

Totally agree Stuckinthebush Feb 2021 #47

Most saying he should be primaried have never spent any meaningful amount of time in red states BannonsLiver Feb 2021 #50

Make Washington D.C. a state. Then Manchin looses his clout. MadMike47 Feb 2021 #51

Progressive Paula Jean Swearengin primaried him in 2018. JaneQPublic Feb 2021 #55

The Bernie supporters said they planned to vote for Trump in the election. They were Demsrule86 Feb 2021 #83

Completely agree! nt cry baby Feb 2021 #56

Bipartisanship is the 2nd dumbest idea in the world. Cobalt Violet Feb 2021 #58

Joe Biden say bipartisanship is for the American people not necessarily Congress. Demsrule86 Feb 2021 #85

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Feb 2021 #99

Pretty much. And yet . . . peggysue2 Feb 2021 #59

We Big Tent Party or Toe Line Party? bucolic_frolic Feb 2021 #61

Primarying Joe Manchin is lunacy. dchill Feb 2021 #62

Yeah VA_Jill Feb 2021 #68

A primary challenge to TheFarseer Feb 2021 #69

It is still a waste of money...no primaring anyone this year. Demsrule86 Feb 2021 #87

Thank you. crickets Feb 2021 #90

We need to hold the House and the Senate...and we can do this...but not with idiotic primarying of Demsrule86 Feb 2021 #92

We simply don't agree on this TheFarseer Feb 2021 #125

This is a very stupid idea Gothmog Feb 2021 #72

He's not even up for re-election until 2024. maxsolomon Feb 2021 #79

I'm in Kentucky. I'd be happy to have Manchin as a replacement for BOTH of my Senators. Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2021 #82

Some Dems want to lose our majority to teach moderates a lesson IronLionZion Feb 2021 #84

I honestly think that some want us to be in the minority if being in the majority means adding Demsrule86 Feb 2021 #86

Our efforts are better spent going after blue/purple state Republicans. nt IronLionZion Feb 2021 #88

You are correct as always! Demsrule86 Feb 2021 #93

No, they want Democrats to lose so they can make money JI7 Feb 2021 #96

True that Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2021 #89

It's the Susan Sarandon style of going down in the flames of self-righteousness. JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2021 #91

Thank You for the SS ref. Budi Feb 2021 #118

Third dumbest-- just behind flat-earth and 6000 year old earth. LanternWaste Feb 2021 #101

The ones who promote such stupidity are all about the purity. It's a ego and pride thing... NurseJackie Feb 2021 #107

It's kind of funny, after seeing progressive Democrats called centrists/moderates betsuni Feb 2021 #114

It might be good for Joe to find out his constituents aren't as conservative as he thinks. If jalan48 Feb 2021 #116

WV voters supported Trump by the largest margin in the US -- 40 points in 2016. pnwmom Feb 2021 #123

No worries for Joe then. jalan48 Feb 2021 #124

Doesn't matter. He's said he's not running for another term Calista241 Feb 2021 #117

Focus on other states. LiberalFighter Feb 2021 #122

He'll take votes to the brink nearly every time, and there will... VarryOn Feb 2021 #126

Just like GA? Mike Niendorff Feb 2021 #127