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17. Thomas Jefferson letter regarding dogs
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 09:02 AM
Oct 2012

From http://www.monticello.org/site/research-and-collections/letter-hostility-to-dogs :

To Peter Minor

Dear Sir
Monticello Sep. 24. 11

I participate in all your hostility to dogs, and would readily join in any plan for exterminating the whole race. I consider them as the most afflicting of all the follies for which men tax themselves. but as total extirpation cannot be hoped for, let it be partial. I like well your outlines of a law for this purpose: but should we not add a provision for making the owner of a dog liable for all the mischeif done by him, and requiring that every dog shall wear a collar with the name of the person inscribed who shall be security for his honest demeanor? I believe your calculation of their numbers & cost is far within bounds; & I am satisfied that taking the whole mass of dogs in the state into consideration, the average of what they get fairly & unfairly of the food fit for man, would1 feed a man. are there not as many sheep and hogs annually lost to the owners, by dogs, or with their aid, as there are dogs in the state? the petition to the legislature should I think refer to the wisdom of the legislature whether the law should be general, or confined to the counties below the ridge, or local to such counties only as shall chuse to be named in it, but should pray ultimately that if no other county concurs, it may yet be made the law for the county of Albemarle. I know of no service I can render in this business, unless perhaps to write to some friends in the legislature to interest themselves in promoting it. accept assurances of my esteem & respect.

Th:Jefferson



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Guns Yes, Dogs No. [View all] Pryderi Oct 2012 OP
Well that doesn't surprise me that you are confused Missycim Oct 2012 #1
Yep, dog crap and guns. An equivalent danger. Chorophyll Oct 2012 #2
Well dog crap breeds diseases Missycim Oct 2012 #4
responsible dog owners pick up their dog's poop magical thyme Oct 2012 #18
You have proof of such behavior of gun owners Missycim Oct 2012 #19
oh Christ on a trailorhitch JanMichael Oct 2012 #42
It hurts that I am allowed to carry a gun in national parks Missycim Oct 2012 #43
We own guns...so let's get that crap out of the way right JanMichael Oct 2012 #44
Well you know, an unholstered dog is pretty darn scary. They bark and growl and snarl. geckosfeet Oct 2012 #8
Yeah. Random shootings never happen... n/t Pryderi Oct 2012 #3
Well its so bad in the forrests there's blood flowing on the trails Missycim Oct 2012 #5
Think "school cafeteria" eom Kolesar Oct 2012 #7
here's one KurtNYC Oct 2012 #31
Thats a crimnal act Missycim Oct 2012 #32
Watch out; here comes the gun "enthusiast" patrol! nt zanana1 Oct 2012 #27
Sorry the gun grabbers beat us here first :( Missycim Oct 2012 #35
STOP TRYING TO TAKE AWAY MY DOG WALKING RIGHTS iamthebandfanman Oct 2012 #40
Hey I am all for your rights Missycim Oct 2012 #41
lets put it another way Missycim Oct 2012 #6
Well you know what they say about animals and babies... Sekhmets Daughter Oct 2012 #14
I don't remember, so what do they say? lol Missycim Oct 2012 #15
strange that I recently defended dogs being on trails on a Tenn. forum Duppers Oct 2012 #23
Hell to the no Missycim Oct 2012 #24
Ditto Victor_c3 Oct 2012 #26
"ferrel" dog? Are you off your meds? zanana1 Oct 2012 #29
spel cheque did'nt ketch it Victor_c3 Oct 2012 #33
Unlike guns, dogs sometimes can't be controlled by their owners ileus Oct 2012 #9
DUzy. TheCowsCameHome Oct 2012 #16
Guns don't shit on the walkway? n/t porphyrian Oct 2012 #10
lol!! :) darkangel218 Oct 2012 #11
... porphyrian Oct 2012 #46
Shows how little we've progressed in this country. Hoyt Oct 2012 #12
Funny thing is Missycim Oct 2012 #37
You'd be surprised how easy it is to tell. Hoyt Oct 2012 #38
well then explain Missycim Oct 2012 #39
Guns aren't allowed in buildings there. TheCowsCameHome Oct 2012 #13
I have to agree with that Victor_c3 Oct 2012 #30
Thomas Jefferson letter regarding dogs sl8 Oct 2012 #17
Interesting. I was first disappointed in Jefferson when I realized he was a slave owner. Now this. Hoyt Oct 2012 #34
AN IRRESPONSIBLE OWNER WOULD HAVE LEFT THE DOG IN THE CAR.. IN THE HEAT secondwind Oct 2012 #20
I love posts abelenkpe Oct 2012 #21
Me too. Hoyt Oct 2012 #36
Neither should be allowed. RC Oct 2012 #22
I like guns and I like dogs, my favorite though are gundogs. Drahthaardogs Oct 2012 #25
GOPNRA madness. nt onehandle Oct 2012 #28
I've had... 99Forever Oct 2012 #45
Seems to me that the problem with both dogs & guns are the people that own them. n/t Egalitarian Thug Oct 2012 #47
Locking... cyberswede Oct 2012 #48
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