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Atticus

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5. I think the Trump "defense" will be a high-volume "Gish Gallop".

Sat Feb 6, 2021, 08:18 PM

Feb 2021

To briefly---and rather crudely---explain, a "Gish Gallop" is a cascade of ridiculous bull shit; a steady stream of snarky remarks that are either gross exaggerations or misrepresentations of some small bit of "truth".

In this example, the insurrection AND the George Floyd murder protests involved 1,) a death, and 2.) crowds. Those are factors which, of course, do not in any way equate the two events but, while we are taking the time to rationally explain this, WE are not focusing attention on our overwhelming evidence and THEY are flingin another equally outrageous allegation/accusation.

And, when we leave our defense of the first fling of poo to begin a defense of the second, they launch another---and another---and----

The tactic is used by people who have NO REAL EVIDENCE to counter their opponent's.

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I would like the DU experts to explain to me how protesting over the [View all] malaise Feb 2021 OP

Yes, It Is! ProfessorGAC Feb 2021 #1

When their bucket only holds shit UpInArms Feb 2021 #2

This is clearly the right-wing smear team in action DonaldsRump Feb 2021 #3

not stupid. barbtries Feb 2021 #14

It's not comparable and most know it. But it's hard to Hoyt Feb 2021 #4

That's one way of looking at it malaise Feb 2021 #11

I honestly don't think they were that organized, but doesn't mean the Hoyt Feb 2021 #12

I think they were pretty well organized to wnylib Feb 2021 #33

It's not like the Capitol is some secret pyramid. There should have been reinforcements on Hoyt Feb 2021 #34

Sorry, I just can't agree that they wnylib Feb 2021 #36

We'll know soon enough. But fact they didn't get anyone in Congress tells me Hoyt Feb 2021 #38

Sorry, didn't mean to post that twice. Hoyt Feb 2021 #39

I think the Trump "defense" will be a high-volume "Gish Gallop". Atticus Feb 2021 #5

You nailed it malaise Feb 2021 #7

Maybe WA-03 Democrat Feb 2021 #6

Yes indeed malaise Feb 2021 #8

Problem is that too many Republican politicians understand what happens when that thread is pulled kurtcagle Feb 2021 #15

Can we ever trust them with power again? WA-03 Democrat Feb 2021 #17

It's comparable because Fox watchers and HateRadio NoMoreRepugs Feb 2021 #9

There is no comparison mdbl Feb 2021 #10

it's all they got Malaise. barbtries Feb 2021 #13

Great rant - Did you see this on JHB's cartoon thread malaise Feb 2021 #16

perfect. barbtries Feb 2021 #37

False equivalencies are Republicans stock in trade dlk Feb 2021 #18

Honestly we have much work to do for 2022 which will be skewed again because Trump bucolic_frolic Feb 2021 #19

Yes, 2022 will be tricky. The GOP seems to be in disarray but we can't take anything for granted LymphocyteLover Feb 2021 #28

No Democrat told protesters to go to Target. Trump told the crowd to "go to the Capitol." SunSeeker Feb 2021 #20

They are trying to defend the indefensible. It's Impossible. spanone Feb 2021 #21

not even close. Orwellian, like all else they spew. Evolve Dammit Feb 2021 #22

I hope no one here thinks they are even remotely comparable! BlueLucy Feb 2021 #23

The GQP in Congress and tried to paint Ilhan Omar with the same brush as Marge TrailorTrash Green ChubbyStar Feb 2021 #24

Not if you're from the GOP. plimsoll Feb 2021 #25

It's an old lawyer's saw. TomSlick Feb 2021 #26

We must be really dumb DUers spooky3 Feb 2021 #27

there's no comparison -- it's disgusting in the extreme to compare the two things LymphocyteLover Feb 2021 #29

No, Malaise It's All The Same.... COL Mustard Feb 2021 #30

Recommended. H2O Man Feb 2021 #31

Yah think1 malaise Feb 2021 #35

K&R Blue Owl Feb 2021 #32

The conservatives... qwlauren35 Feb 2021 #40

Conservatives view whites as the true victims radius777 Feb 2021 #41

Soto these morons conservative now means racists? malaise Feb 2021 #42

Only because there was violence and destruction in some BLM protests, especially night ones. TigressDem Feb 2021 #43

DEATHS in Minneapolis During BLM protest period happened at night... TigressDem Feb 2021 #49

The know that many white people think black bodies are inherently dangerous StarfishSaver Feb 2021 #44

The problem Starfish is that REICH Wing infiltrated BLM protests and/or their counter protests... TigressDem Feb 2021 #50

Excellent post malaise Feb 2021 #51

Random acts of violence were the exception to BLM's mission and message and very rare StarfishSaver Feb 2021 #53

I guess what I am saying is, "WE talk about STANDARDS and stick with it." TigressDem Feb 2021 #54

FACTS people DIED around BLM Protests..... did BLM Protestors DO the killing? Have to dig deeper TigressDem Feb 2021 #45

Defending lies against our own eyes and ears is tough. pwb Feb 2021 #46

Portland BLM protest turned violent. tRumpies came in caravans and got shot down. TigressDem Feb 2021 #47

They ALREADY hold BLM accountable - JUST SAYING, they should hold all REICH WING accountable too. TigressDem Feb 2021 #48

The kGOP are lying about who said violence should be incited, they keep saying it was democrats uponit7771 Feb 2021 #52

But WHOSE face and lying mouth is on VIDEO? MTG, tRump, sTone TigressDem Feb 2021 #55

BLM did not kill people malaise Feb 2021 #57

Someone with ties to Antifa killed a Pro-tRump supporter in Portland. So it isn't 100% spotless TigressDem Feb 2021 #59

ANTIFA isn't a national organization and that non entity has nothing to do with BLM. Hey Tigress, .. uponit7771 Feb 2021 #62

ALL I wanted was a clear verbal statement from BLM saying that the VIOLENCE was not their mission. TigressDem Feb 2021 #66

Dems and social orgs like BLM denounced the violence day one, it's not their job to uponit7771 Feb 2021 #67

BLM didn't have to be sorry there's no proof they're connected to any of the violence on the other.. uponit7771 Feb 2021 #58

Murder is a worse violence. But BLM DESTROYED Whole Blocks in Minneapolis. Buildings can be rebuilt. TigressDem Feb 2021 #60

Please link and quote BLM destroying blocks of anything, thx in advance. uponit7771 Feb 2021 #61

You know how WE kept asking tRump to DENOUNCE the VIOLENCE? We should do the same. TigressDem Feb 2021 #63

LINK to MAP of areas targeted in this message TigressDem Feb 2021 #64

Everyone WAS pissed. I am STILL NOT OVER George Floyd's death. TigressDem Feb 2021 #65

Sociopaths have to lie because they have no legit defense. Irish_Dem Feb 2021 #56