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42. I was surprised to learn awhile back about Christian apologetics

Sun Feb 7, 2021, 06:37 PM

Feb 2021

I did not grow up in the church, and most Christian persuasive speech sounds like patterned gobbledygook. I know what they are saying and their intent, but the logic is so foreign to me that it can never be persuasive.

Career and professional Christians go through a lot of training on rhetoric, and persuasion to explain and support their viewpoints, and to try to convert people.

Perhaps it's time to have progressive Christian apologetics. Unfortunately, I am too far outside the church to be a good candidate for it.

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I'm a Christian Dem and Frustrated [View all] Sugarmaggie Feb 2021 OP

Agree. However the IRS does NOTHING with reports of these violations AFAIK. Because Jeebus... CurtEastPoint Feb 2021 #1

Fear of a 1st Amendment quagmire. paleotn Feb 2021 #14

A several years ago I regularly passed a Church in southern AZ (on the way to Douglas grantcart Feb 2021 #36

... pazzyanne Feb 2021 #2

When they stand before the Lord it won't be rigged and ythey will be judged and found lacking sanatanadharma Feb 2021 #3

Agree! True Blue American Feb 2021 #8

Yes DeSmet Feb 2021 #24

This is the only argument that sometimes makes me wish there was a god. lindysalsagal Feb 2021 #28

The government needs an investigative agency that infiltrates the fascist churches and take videos Roisin Ni Fiachra Feb 2021 #4

We had a big investigation here True Blue American Feb 2021 #10

Call the church or write the church and tell them that, and tell them that their published Squinch Feb 2021 #5

I don't know if enforcing the Johnson Amendment Mariana Feb 2021 #6

Hear, hear! smirkymonkey Feb 2021 #7

They seem a little fuzzy on the "thou shalt not bear flase witness" thing. JHB Feb 2021 #9

By chance, Sugarmaggie, do you live in North Carolina? Our AG church in town has that BComplex Feb 2021 #11

Indiana Sugarmaggie Feb 2021 #30

I gotta say my liberal Jewish Synagogue gets pretty political. The Rabbi uses coded words mucifer Feb 2021 #12

Well, it's all fiction. Right up there with "Greedo shot first." stopbush Feb 2021 #13

I'm agnostic basically Turin_C3PO Feb 2021 #16

I fall into the.... paleotn Feb 2021 #23

There used to be two absolutes, death and taxes. Gary 50 Feb 2021 #31

Q: do you believe there's an equal chance that Zeus actually exists as the Biblical god? stopbush Feb 2021 #35

The probabilities of both appear equally infinitesimally small .... paleotn Feb 2021 #37

Well, if we're going to go down the "can't prove a negative" road, we inevitably stopbush Feb 2021 #39

I agree with you, but...... paleotn Feb 2021 #40

I'd keep the door open if the chance were close to 50/50 stopbush Feb 2021 #41

Absolutely agree... RealityCheque Feb 2021 #15

It shows a gross lack of faith. paleotn Feb 2021 #17

You sound like a Red Letter Christian. safeinOhio Feb 2021 #29

Not really. paleotn Feb 2021 #34

However, I think, may be wrong, that Black preachers have often led question everything Feb 2021 #18

There's a big difference between infullview Feb 2021 #21

Think about reactionaries invested in the status quo. paleotn Feb 2021 #25

Moblizing voters is legal and acceptable. Mariana Feb 2021 #27

"then pay your taxes like everyone else" Agree wholeheatedly. infullview Feb 2021 #19

Don't expect the government tax policy to fix problems in the church jmbar2 Feb 2021 #20

But it's so much easier to just shrug and say, "They aren't real Christians." Mariana Feb 2021 #32

I was surprised to learn awhile back about Christian apologetics jmbar2 Feb 2021 #42

Southern Baptist raised EveDibb Feb 2021 #22

im atheist, but i do smile when i see a church marquee with a social message... samnsara Feb 2021 #26

I'm an Atheist and a member safeinOhio Feb 2021 #33

fear inducing threats on the church msg board lol. typical of the group nt msongs Feb 2021 #38