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In reply to the discussion: Tell me where I am wrong with this? Trump wanted even more bloodshed and death on 1/6/21 .... [View all]scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)30. Please note: Ginni Thomas did NOT pay for any transportation for the protestors.
That is an untrue rumor:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ginni-thomas-buses/
Following the melee, journalists and activists have scrutinized the roles of various individuals involved in the promotion of demonstrations that day. On Jan. 7, 2021, Slate reporter Mark Joseph Stern highlighted the fact that the wife of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, Ginni, had enthusiastically promoted the protests and praised the participants:
By the weekend, this observation had formed the basis of a false rumor that Thomas not only supported the protesters as shown on Facebook, but that she funded 80 buses to transport insurrectionists to D.C. on Wednesday.
The rumor stems from the unproven assertion made by Talking Point USA founder Charlie Kirk, who claimed on Twitter two days before the riots (before deleting the tweet after they turned violent) that he and his organizations both Turning Point USA and Turning Point Action USA would be sending 80+ buses full of patriots to DC to fight for this president. The link to Thomas gained prominence online when it was promoted virally in a user-submitted blog post on the left-wing site DailyKos. That posts argument stems from tweets tying Thomas to Turning Point USA and other right-wing political organizations involved in the rally.
While we point out that Kirk, no stranger to false claims, has provided no evidence of his organizations funding of 80 buses to the rally, the link to Thomas based on her work with Turning Point USA is out-of-date even if Kirk is telling the truth. It is true that Thomas was once on the Advisory Council for Turning Point USA, a body that has at times included over 75 people, but she has not served in that role since at least early 2019, according to Turning Point USAs website.
Thomas is indeed a well-known right-wing organizer and conspiracy theorist. She provided Trump with several memos outlining what she believed to be government officials unfaithful to Trump, lobbied successfully for appointments of Trump loyalists to government posts, and along with other activists met with him in 2019 to discuss appointments that they accused the presidents aides of blocking, for example. In 2016 as Snopes reported in an October 2020 investigation, she was also part of efforts to promote false talking points regarding illegal voting by immigrants in the 2016 election.
However, as Stern, the Slate reporter, tweeted: even if [Turning Point USA] funded transportation to the insurrection (and we should not automatically believe Charlie Kirk), Thomas had nothing to do with it. As such, the claim that Ginni Thomas organized 80 buses for the Save America Rally is false.
Alex Kasprak
Published 11 January 2021
Following the melee, journalists and activists have scrutinized the roles of various individuals involved in the promotion of demonstrations that day. On Jan. 7, 2021, Slate reporter Mark Joseph Stern highlighted the fact that the wife of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, Ginni, had enthusiastically promoted the protests and praised the participants:
By the weekend, this observation had formed the basis of a false rumor that Thomas not only supported the protesters as shown on Facebook, but that she funded 80 buses to transport insurrectionists to D.C. on Wednesday.
The rumor stems from the unproven assertion made by Talking Point USA founder Charlie Kirk, who claimed on Twitter two days before the riots (before deleting the tweet after they turned violent) that he and his organizations both Turning Point USA and Turning Point Action USA would be sending 80+ buses full of patriots to DC to fight for this president. The link to Thomas gained prominence online when it was promoted virally in a user-submitted blog post on the left-wing site DailyKos. That posts argument stems from tweets tying Thomas to Turning Point USA and other right-wing political organizations involved in the rally.
While we point out that Kirk, no stranger to false claims, has provided no evidence of his organizations funding of 80 buses to the rally, the link to Thomas based on her work with Turning Point USA is out-of-date even if Kirk is telling the truth. It is true that Thomas was once on the Advisory Council for Turning Point USA, a body that has at times included over 75 people, but she has not served in that role since at least early 2019, according to Turning Point USAs website.
Thomas is indeed a well-known right-wing organizer and conspiracy theorist. She provided Trump with several memos outlining what she believed to be government officials unfaithful to Trump, lobbied successfully for appointments of Trump loyalists to government posts, and along with other activists met with him in 2019 to discuss appointments that they accused the presidents aides of blocking, for example. In 2016 as Snopes reported in an October 2020 investigation, she was also part of efforts to promote false talking points regarding illegal voting by immigrants in the 2016 election.
However, as Stern, the Slate reporter, tweeted: even if [Turning Point USA] funded transportation to the insurrection (and we should not automatically believe Charlie Kirk), Thomas had nothing to do with it. As such, the claim that Ginni Thomas organized 80 buses for the Save America Rally is false.
Alex Kasprak
Published 11 January 2021
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Tell me where I am wrong with this? Trump wanted even more bloodshed and death on 1/6/21 .... [View all]
Botany
Feb 2021
OP
When I first saw the reports of the attack on the Capitol I kept waiting for the billy clubs,
Botany
Feb 2021
#5
Flynn's brother was working inside the Pentagon trying to stop any national guard ...
Botany
Feb 2021
#6
Please note: Ginni Thomas did NOT pay for any transportation for the protestors.
scarletwoman
Feb 2021
#30
i think the goal was chaos, disrupting the count, maybe declare martial law, gain an advantage.
bullimiami
Feb 2021
#3
Don't we know when he knew simply by the newscasts of him, his cabal members and family
KPN
Feb 2021
#17
Thanks for the correction. I did not know that. I saw that video scene once or twice while
KPN
Feb 2021
#45
I agree with you. The end game was not broken glass and photo ops for the seditionists.
Chainfire
Feb 2021
#16
Yes...he wanted deaths to high ranking officials and then declare Martial Law...
ashredux
Feb 2021
#14
That was the plan. Trigger a mob, police react with gun fire. Chaos, martial law.
grantcart
Feb 2021
#20
He wanted bloodshed to declare martial law. He wanted Mike Pence to be his "Horst Wesel" ...
marble falls
Feb 2021
#24
good thing that mob was distracted , had they not been, we would have now been hearing
AllaN01Bear
Feb 2021
#40
