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mr_lebowski

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1. I'm sure sometimes/in some people's case, but I don't think 'always'

Reply to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Sat Feb 20, 2021, 10:57 AM

Feb 2021

I mean, my 75yo mom hates metal, but I don't think she has a distaste for pasty, long-haired white dudes.

Conversely there's plenty of bona-fide racists that love and listen to hip-hop. Just like they watch the NBA and NFL.

Just sayin'

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There is a racial element to those who go out of their way to denigrate rap music. [View all] DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2021 OP

I'm sure sometimes/in some people's case, but I don't think 'always' mr_lebowski Feb 2021 #1

I agree. Like your Mom, I hate metal music. NNadir Feb 2021 #7

As I said there's a lot of genres I'm not fond of... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2021 #9

Yep. I can appreciate the artform and form of expression that it is. I just can't listen to it-- catbyte Feb 2021 #2

My Mom hated it when I started listening to modern Jazz in my 20s. maxsolomon Feb 2021 #6

Cultural tribalism zaj Feb 2021 #3

Nope, some people hate rap, country, classical, metal.... USALiberal Feb 2021 #4

You are right, I am white and to me rap is just Butterflylady Feb 2021 #10

There are Country Denigraters, Pop Denigraters, Jazz Denigraters. maxsolomon Feb 2021 #5

I'm an old head DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2021 #8

Exactly. I appreciate the provocation, but at 57, it's not for me. maxsolomon Feb 2021 #16

WAP didn't do it for me. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2021 #21

Disco Denigrators eShirl Feb 2021 #24

homophobia was a big part of the disco hate. mopinko Feb 2021 #41

that was mentioned in the HBO Bee Gees doc maxsolomon Feb 2021 #54

Rap started becoming prevalent on the radio when I was about 23. luvs2sing Feb 2021 #11

It's not disliking it. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2021 #12

Yeah, I get that. luvs2sing Feb 2021 #14

I had an an office mate who was an adjunct history professor DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2021 #19

Exactly. luvs2sing Feb 2021 #37

That's the point. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2021 #59

So is someone making an ostentatious display of their dislike Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2021 #67

I have seen t-shirts and graffiti that says "rap is crap." DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2021 #69

I love Nascar! Think because I learned all Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2021 #73

"What track?" DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2021 #76

You are probably right. I am just hoping like hell that Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2021 #84

I went to a few operas because some friends were in them Retrograde Feb 2021 #82

Something about your friend's group.. luvs2sing Feb 2021 #85

the reaction to art is personal - neither wrong or right NRaleighLiberal Feb 2021 #13

Right. The OP's absolutism is just plain wrong. Intolerance of Hortensis Feb 2021 #25

Do you go out our way to lambaste rap or those who like it? DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2021 #31

Right. Never have, never will. But then I wasn't in training Hortensis Feb 2021 #65

Is Bob Dylan Hip-Hop's Godfather? DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2021 #72

Okay, you brought up a good one. I remember doing the Hortensis Feb 2021 #75

I actually prefer Diamonds And Rust but here's rap's reach. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2021 #77

Lol, thanks. She was one of my oldies, and I do like her "reach." Hortensis Feb 2021 #83

There is. ismnotwasm Feb 2021 #15

No, some of us appreciate what melody does for music. Arthur_Frain Feb 2021 #17

Yeah. No. SlogginThroughIt Feb 2021 #32

Disagree, respectfully. Arthur_Frain Feb 2021 #92

Well I could care leas if you *like* rap. SlogginThroughIt Feb 2021 #95

I'm confused. "unless it's Ted Nugent or Kid Rock." LakeArenal Feb 2021 #18

I hate Nugent and Kid Rock because one is a racist and both are Trumplicans. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2021 #20

I'm not sure why you threw them in then if it's not about the music. LakeArenal Feb 2021 #22

Because their transgressions imo raises my ire. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2021 #28

But I really dislike both. I think Voight isnt a good actor at all. LakeArenal Feb 2021 #46

You got me to learn something about myself DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2021 #56

Thanks for keeping it a discussion and not an attack. LakeArenal Feb 2021 #61

Nugent isn't a bad guitarist but I hate his politics so much I won't listen to him. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2021 #63

I can separate the music from the artist. WarGamer Feb 2021 #44

When I think of SoCal I think of the Laurel Canyon scene DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2021 #55

I grew up near the San Fernando Valley in the 70's-80's... WarGamer Feb 2021 #57

I grew up in Central Florida but live in Woodland Hills now. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2021 #60

Wish you could have seen the Valley in the 70's... WarGamer Feb 2021 #64

What high school did you go to? DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2021 #66

Glendale HS... still keep a home base in Pasadena. WarGamer Feb 2021 #68

That's the other side of the Valley. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2021 #70

I'm sure that's true for some people, but others have different reasons for their outspoken dislike. dawg Feb 2021 #23

As a big music fan, I can understand mvd Feb 2021 #45

I detest country music with the heat of a thousand suns BannonsLiver Feb 2021 #26

Don't forget Kris Kristofferson or Emmylou Harris DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2021 #29

I like country mvd Feb 2021 #49

My favorite country songs DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2021 #62

Bo Burnham nailed modern "stadium" country Sympthsical Feb 2021 #53

It is the total outlook nam78_two Feb 2021 #27

+1,000 malaise Feb 2021 #30

K&R for visibility. rogue emissary Feb 2021 #33

Hard to disagree. Politicub Feb 2021 #34

It's rap music fans' ostentatious display of their LIKE for it. Jeebo Feb 2021 #35

This Delarage Feb 2021 #50

I'll take the Temptations any day over rap "music." At best it's poetry IMO. Vinca Feb 2021 #36

I don't denigrate it treestar Feb 2021 #38

This message was self-deleted by its author GreenEyedLefty Feb 2021 #39

Being a Trump Tool Delarage Feb 2021 #47

Not in my head... WarGamer Feb 2021 #40

Cube flirted with anti-semitism but disavowed it. I hope he keeps disavowing it. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2021 #74

I agree. I don't listen to the genre, but some rappers are definitely talented mvd Feb 2021 #42

Not that it matters much, but my favorite rap piece was by an old white Jewish guy 40 years ago DFW Feb 2021 #43

I like most of the original rap and the OG rappers. cwydro Feb 2021 #48

Really depends on what you're criticizing Sympthsical Feb 2021 #51

Homophobia and misogyny aren't intrinsic to anybody's culture. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2021 #81

There is more talent.... quickesst Feb 2021 #52

"I made the Yankee hat more famous than a Yankee can." DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2021 #80

okay.... quickesst Feb 2021 #90

And that racial element is on display in this thread. johnp3907 Feb 2021 #58

The point is lost on some. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2021 #86

Yeah, your point was totally clear. johnp3907 Feb 2021 #87

There hasn't been one person on here that has said anything to warrant the accusation LakeArenal Feb 2021 #89

Sorry but that is 100% unwarranted and ridiculous sorry. Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2021 #93

I work with Sturgeon's Law - "Ninety percent of everything is crap." csziggy Feb 2021 #71

I remember similar arguments in the 80s about disco Retrograde Feb 2021 #78

I think Jagger called an album two good songs, surrounded by crap. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2021 #79

"Making an ostentatious display of your dislike" brooklynite Feb 2021 #88

It's the same thing as criticizing Israel Azathoth Feb 2021 #91

On another board DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2021 #94