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Big Blue Marble

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54. That is not how it works; no matter how frustrating it is.

Tue Feb 23, 2021, 02:08 PM

Feb 2021

How can we be tough on Manchin let alone Republicans. We do not hold that much power.
Trust Biden to weave his way through this situation.

I assure you slamming Manchin is not the answer. He knows his voters better than you do and he feels
no pressure as he has four years until his next re-election anyway. His voters want him to stand up to
Biden and Schumer; they reward him for that.

This "son of bitch" is not being lured by the Republicans. He is who he always was and will be.
And right now he holds the entire Biden agenda in his hands He will do what is best for
him and his constituents no matter how much you rant.

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So when does this start to hurt Manchin [View all] Boydog Feb 2021 OP

The President should have a chat with the Senator (n/t) PJMcK Feb 2021 #1

Concur! nt AKwannabe Feb 2021 #2

My recollection is that WV is perhaps the state receiving the most federal money. theneworiginal Feb 2021 #62

And he may want to channel LBJ when he does it. nt dflprincess Feb 2021 #70

And he may want to channel ME when he does it. I would take NO nonsence!! Trueblue1968 Feb 2021 #72

I think you would be the perfect choice! dflprincess Feb 2021 #73

Thanks for the vote of confidence Princess. Just as my hubby how loud my ROAR is. Trueblue1968 Feb 2021 #75

Never. That said, it should be really easy to get Manchin to go along with more progress actions. FSogol Feb 2021 #3

Manchin is from a state that is pretty deeply red at this moment Algernon Moncrieff Feb 2021 #4

$11 vs $15 pamdb Feb 2021 #5

Sounds like BS... Wounded Bear Feb 2021 #11

Back in the day,the FBI would be tasked to find some personally damaging info for blackmail purposes MichMan Feb 2021 #6

When we have a majority of two or more votes in the Senate still_one Feb 2021 #7

Truth. n/t kairos12 Feb 2021 #8

His positions that turn a blind eye to white male Trump officials while judging female qualified hlthe2b Feb 2021 #9

Well stated. JoanofArgh Feb 2021 #17

No, of course Manchin and WV are fine. WV LIKES Manchin and reelected Hortensis Feb 2021 #10

I don't think WV likes Manchin as much as they did in 2018- constituent groups are confronting him Fiendish Thingy Feb 2021 #14

Please BGBD Feb 2021 #48

As long as he is defending the views of his constituecy, yes. He's moving away from that with hlthe2b Feb 2021 #15

He's serving a VERY BROAD CONSTIUENCY, and a position that disappoints Hortensis Feb 2021 #20

You keep stating what we all know as though you think we fellow DUers are stupid or the "enemy." hlthe2b Feb 2021 #23

We are in an era of extremist resurgence. Reality always has been Hortensis Feb 2021 #30

Seems you are lumping us all into the RW creation of what "socialism" is and making DU the enemy hlthe2b Feb 2021 #31

Sorry that's your take. I'd of course love to hear you Hortensis Feb 2021 #36

Since when is THAT the goal? I contest that strongly. You may point to an individual poster or two hlthe2b Feb 2021 #37

Oh, I didn't say YOU're leading this effort to take out Hortensis Feb 2021 #38

Well aware of what went on in 2016. What evidence do you have this conspiracy is going on hlthe2b Feb 2021 #39

you use the word 'illiberal' to demean progressives bigtree Feb 2021 #40

I'm progressive and not demeaning myself. Illiberal refers to Hortensis Feb 2021 #44

I know what the word means, I'm sure you don't bigtree Feb 2021 #45

No purpose in continuing. I'll leave you to hopefully Hortensis Feb 2021 #46

you know well that any Democratic opponents are talking about primary election efforts bigtree Feb 2021 #47

This message was self-deleted by its author Hortensis Feb 2021 #21

Dupe. I responded to your first post. hlthe2b Feb 2021 #26

Manchin didn't even win a majority in 2018. Lasher Feb 2021 #18

It gets better: Hortensis Feb 2021 #25

Tell me about it. Lasher Feb 2021 #51

Ouch. Well, they're all worked up now, but...he has until 2024. Hortensis Feb 2021 #53

"not a bunch of far left, illiberal, antidemocratic opponents of representative government" marmar Feb 2021 #24

Makes one wonder, doesn't it? hlthe2b Feb 2021 #27

Yes it does. Celerity Feb 2021 #61

Mark Kelly doesn't seem to have these issues BradAllison Feb 2021 #68

So every Senator from a blue state who has no objection to these policies is ...... BradAllison Feb 2021 #67

Did you mean woodshed as in "take him out behind the woodshed"? Fiendish Thingy Feb 2021 #12

I'm all about unity and I believ unity starts Boydog Feb 2021 #49

He doesn't intend to obstruct Biden, though. Manchin is a progressive Hortensis Feb 2021 #50

Biden should publicly ask Jerry Nadler to open a special investigation into corporate inversions. Efilroft Sul Feb 2021 #13

Do you want to give the Senate back to McConnell? N/T Big Blue Marble Feb 2021 #16

Do you want Biden to have his cabinet? Efilroft Sul Feb 2021 #19

An attempt to intimate Manchin Big Blue Marble Feb 2021 #33

How can anyone seriously believe the Democrats will be tough on Republicans... Efilroft Sul Feb 2021 #52

That is not how it works; no matter how frustrating it is. Big Blue Marble Feb 2021 #54

And I'm saying the Democrats need to take Manchin's power over Biden's agenda out of his hands. Efilroft Sul Feb 2021 #55

Did you see the vote this afternoon on Tom Vilsack's nomination? Anything to say? George II Feb 2021 #58

Good. That's what. Efilroft Sul Feb 2021 #59

Check who voted for and against him. George II Feb 2021 #60

I know Manchin did and Bernie didn't. Efilroft Sul Feb 2021 #63

What's a "golf clap"? George II Feb 2021 #65

It's the clap the gallery gives to a golfer when he makes par on an easy hole. Efilroft Sul Feb 2021 #66

I don't get the correlation, but not important. Just amazed at the "double standard". Whatever. George II Feb 2021 #69

And what's this double standard of which you speak? Efilroft Sul Feb 2021 #74

Well, on the one hand you insist that Manchin vote for all of Biden's nominees (which I want, too).. George II Feb 2021 #78

This is about Manchin, not Bernie. I understand Bernie's reasons but disagree with them. Efilroft Sul Feb 2021 #79

It's about Senators supporting Biden's nominees. Why all the fretting about Manchin, who..... George II Feb 2021 #80

Why the fretting? Because Manchin's confirmed far worse than Tanden and Haaland. Efilroft Sul Feb 2021 #81

Manchin isn't up until '24 bigtree Feb 2021 #28

He is not catering to the right wing in his state. Big Blue Marble Feb 2021 #34

he's absolutely appeasing the right wing bigtree Feb 2021 #35

I am not pretending anything. Big Blue Marble Feb 2021 #41

so every legislative fight we can expect Manchin to lead with his republican appeasment bigtree Feb 2021 #42

He's not the only non-republican Senator opposing at least one of those women. George II Feb 2021 #64

West Virginia doesn't have a pot to piss in BradAllison Feb 2021 #71

I agree. Manchin needs to be made to Boydog Feb 2021 #22

I'm fearing that he's getting ready to bail on the party msfiddlestix Feb 2021 #29

Doesn't seem like a good time to Boydog Feb 2021 #32

What he's doing now doesn't make sense unless he might be considering before midterms msfiddlestix Feb 2021 #43

It would probably be a lot easier for him to be elected as a Republican Jose Garcia Feb 2021 #56

Haven't tracked when his reelection is coming up msfiddlestix Feb 2021 #57

Manchin could never win a GOP primary radius777 Feb 2021 #77

As soon as we no longer need him budkin Feb 2021 #76