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TomCADem

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Sat Feb 27, 2021, 08:27 PM Feb 2021

Why Poor, Non-Slaveholding White Southerners Fought In The Civil War [View all]

Most confederate soldiers in the civil war did not personally own slaves. Indeed, the existence of slavery helped to depress the wages of poor whites in the pre-Civil War South. With low wages and few schools, southern whites suffered a much lower land ownership rate and a far lower literacy rate than northern whites. So, why did poor Southern whites support secession from the United States prior to the civil war?

As the article below and quoted source material illustrates, racism not only oppresses the objects of racism, but it oppresses working class whites as well. With the funding and proliferation of racist, right wing media outlets like OANN, Newsmax and Fox News, we continue to see the use of racism as the ultimate con job on the working class.

Trump represents a modern example of this con job, a rich white male who literally lives in a country club whose biggest accomplishment is a tax cut to folks likes himself, yet he draws much of his support from working class whites whose benefits and health care he has repeatedly sought to cut.

https://www.battlefields.org/learn/articles/why-non-slaveholding-southerners-fought

As a Southerner with ancestors who fought for the Confederacy, I have been intrigued with the question of why my ancestors felt compelled to leave the United States and set up their own country. What brought the American experiment to that extreme juncture?

The short answer, of course, is Abraham Lincoln’s election as president of the United States. What concerned Southerners most about Lincoln’s election was his opposition to the expansion of slavery into the territories; Southern politicians were clear about that. If new states could not be slave states, went the argument, then it was only a matter of time before the South’s clout in Congress would fade, abolitionists would be ascendant, and the South’s “peculiar institution” – the right to own human beings as property – would be in peril.

It is easy to understand why slave owners would be concerned about the threat, real or imagined, that Lincoln posed to slavery. But what about those Southerners who did not own slaves? Why would they risk their livelihoods by leaving the United States and pledging allegiance to a new nation grounded in the proposition that all men are not created equal, a nation established to preserve a type of property that they did not own?

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Non-slaveholders, a plantation owner predicted, were also in danger. “It will be to the non-slaveholder, equally with the largest slaveholder, the obliteration of caste and the deprivation of important privileges,” he cautioned. “The color of the white man is now, in the South, a title of nobility in his relations as to the negro,” he reminded his readers. “In the Southern slaveholding States, where menial and degrading offices are turned over to be per formed exclusively by the Negro slave, the status and color of the black race becomes the badge of inferiority, and the poorest non-slaveholder may rejoice with the richest of his brethren of the white race, in the distinction of his color. He may be poor, it is true; but there is no point upon which he is so justly proud and sensitive as his privilege of caste; and there is nothing which he would resent with more fierce indignation than the attempt of the Abolitionist to emancipate the slaves and elevate the Negroes to an equality with himself and his family.
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Or, as LBJ said about 100 years later: Ocelot II Feb 2021 #1
Yup, LBJ, a Southerner, Would Definitely Know. MLK Made The Same Observation... TomCADem Feb 2021 #4
The economic irony.. Xolodno Feb 2021 #6
They kept themselves down by hating black people more than JI7 Feb 2021 #10
That one quote made me like LBJ a whole lot more than I had. BobTheSubgenius Feb 2021 #17
They were drafted and would be tried for treason if they deserted. patricia92243 Feb 2021 #2
Incorrect. TomCADem Feb 2021 #5
I have both... ananda Feb 2021 #3
My mom is from the south.. LeftInTX Feb 2021 #7
Yes, slavery was certainly not confined to the rich. ananda Feb 2021 #22
One of my great grandfathers was born in 1860 LeftInTX Feb 2021 #24
"What concerned Southerners most about Lincoln's election was his opposition" mitch96 Feb 2021 #8
Predatory capitalism moondust Feb 2021 #9
True enough. BobTheSubgenius Feb 2021 #18
Trump, a NY Yankee, calls Sessions a 'dumb southerner' and they love him down there. keithbvadu2 Feb 2021 #11
Randi Rhodes explained it best years ago on Air America. Hoyt Feb 2021 #12
We've been pretty judgy about the caste system in India. summer_in_TX Feb 2021 #13
The Yankee Army is coming to rape your mother and...... UGADawg Feb 2021 #14
How my granddaddy explained it . . . AverageOldGuy Feb 2021 #15
That Is Why Racism Is The Greatest Con. Instead of Fighting for Healthcare or Workers' Rights TomCADem Feb 2021 #19
""Everybody wants to feel superior to somebody and for the white trash, it's the..... " mitch96 Feb 2021 #21
Nary a single heart or mind was changed in the South after "The War of Northern Aggression"... czarjak Feb 2021 #16
That brush is too broad and lacks the paint to prove it. Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2021 #20
But also, slave ownership was more common than most people realize ThoughtCriminal Feb 2021 #23
I agree and the slave censuses often did not include owners who owned 1 or 2 slaves which were SweetieD Feb 2021 #25
The highest estimate I have seen is 1/3 TomCADem Mar 2021 #26
1/3 is substantial ThoughtCriminal Mar 2021 #27
But That Is a Very High Estimate. Duke's Estimate of 20 Percent Seems More Reasonable TomCADem Mar 2021 #28
The Confederate states had a draft, for one thing. Nt raccoon Mar 2021 #29
Only a 1/5 of Confederate Soldiers Were Drafted TomCADem Mar 2021 #30
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