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AverageOldGuy

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15. How my granddaddy explained it . . .
Sat Feb 27, 2021, 11:44 PM
Feb 2021

I was born (1944) and reared in Wilkinson County MS. I never knew my paternal grandfather who died well before I was born. My maternal grandfather and I were very close -- some of my earliest memories are following behind him as he managed his small grocery store, big country general store, and cotton gin.

My g-g-granddaddy and his generation all were slave owners as attested to in the 1850 and 1860 slave censuses that show them owning a total of over 230 slaves.

My granddaddy was born in 1896, thus, his lifetime spanned the period of Southern Redemption, enactment of the Jim Crow Black Codes, rise of the Klan, and the civil rights movement of the 1960's -- he died in 1972.

I don't recall the exact circumstances but, when I was college age, we were talking about the complex relationships in Southern culture between and among rich white, poor whites, blacks with some degree of social standing, and blacks who were worse off than poor whites.

One of his comments is reminiscent of LBJ's comment, quoted above -- he said something like: "Everybody wants to feel superior to somebody and for the white trash, it's the n____r -- no matter how low they may be, they are always better than a n____r."

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Or, as LBJ said about 100 years later: Ocelot II Feb 2021 #1
Yup, LBJ, a Southerner, Would Definitely Know. MLK Made The Same Observation... TomCADem Feb 2021 #4
The economic irony.. Xolodno Feb 2021 #6
They kept themselves down by hating black people more than JI7 Feb 2021 #10
That one quote made me like LBJ a whole lot more than I had. BobTheSubgenius Feb 2021 #17
They were drafted and would be tried for treason if they deserted. patricia92243 Feb 2021 #2
Incorrect. TomCADem Feb 2021 #5
I have both... ananda Feb 2021 #3
My mom is from the south.. LeftInTX Feb 2021 #7
Yes, slavery was certainly not confined to the rich. ananda Feb 2021 #22
One of my great grandfathers was born in 1860 LeftInTX Feb 2021 #24
"What concerned Southerners most about Lincoln's election was his opposition" mitch96 Feb 2021 #8
Predatory capitalism moondust Feb 2021 #9
True enough. BobTheSubgenius Feb 2021 #18
Trump, a NY Yankee, calls Sessions a 'dumb southerner' and they love him down there. keithbvadu2 Feb 2021 #11
Randi Rhodes explained it best years ago on Air America. Hoyt Feb 2021 #12
We've been pretty judgy about the caste system in India. summer_in_TX Feb 2021 #13
The Yankee Army is coming to rape your mother and...... UGADawg Feb 2021 #14
How my granddaddy explained it . . . AverageOldGuy Feb 2021 #15
That Is Why Racism Is The Greatest Con. Instead of Fighting for Healthcare or Workers' Rights TomCADem Feb 2021 #19
""Everybody wants to feel superior to somebody and for the white trash, it's the..... " mitch96 Feb 2021 #21
Nary a single heart or mind was changed in the South after "The War of Northern Aggression"... czarjak Feb 2021 #16
That brush is too broad and lacks the paint to prove it. Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2021 #20
But also, slave ownership was more common than most people realize ThoughtCriminal Feb 2021 #23
I agree and the slave censuses often did not include owners who owned 1 or 2 slaves which were SweetieD Feb 2021 #25
The highest estimate I have seen is 1/3 TomCADem Mar 2021 #26
1/3 is substantial ThoughtCriminal Mar 2021 #27
But That Is a Very High Estimate. Duke's Estimate of 20 Percent Seems More Reasonable TomCADem Mar 2021 #28
The Confederate states had a draft, for one thing. Nt raccoon Mar 2021 #29
Only a 1/5 of Confederate Soldiers Were Drafted TomCADem Mar 2021 #30
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