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qazplm135

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17. so this one thing

Wed Mar 3, 2021, 03:37 PM

Mar 2021

this one thing is all it will take for them to switch or stay home? Really?

If that's the case (spoiler, it isn't) then there are going to be ten things "worse" we do between now and 2022 that would cause such a fickle lot to abandon us.

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AOC to the Rescue Calls out Democrats on Stimulus Amounts [View all] liskddksil Mar 2021 OP

Dammit AOC! jcgoldie Mar 2021 #1

AOC really isn't very helpful. nt comradebillyboy Mar 2021 #2

More helpful then anything these "moderates" are doing nt liskddksil Mar 2021 #3

Those moderates will actually get a stimulus bill comradebillyboy Mar 2021 #6

and the 12 million who were promised checks but don't get them will blame us and we will lose our liskddksil Mar 2021 #7

Sure thing... comradebillyboy Mar 2021 #9

You laugh, but this in an own goal of epic proportions nt liskddksil Mar 2021 #10

The all or nothing approach usually yields nothing. comradebillyboy Mar 2021 #12

That's for sure PatSeg Mar 2021 #19

Sounds great in theory. But 12-17 million stand to lose out on their check. They will blame us liskddksil Mar 2021 #36

And Republicans will make sure they mention it Bettie Mar 2021 #41

Yep and all of this nonsense to save only 12 billion dollars that isn't even going liskddksil Mar 2021 #42

And all in the name of "moderation" Bettie Mar 2021 #83

Should I bdamomma Mar 2021 #98

You are correct. ForgoTheConsequence Mar 2021 #38

Glad you think it's funny kcr Mar 2021 #35

No they won't. Especially the people who said they didn't need it and that it should SharonClark Mar 2021 #16

Agree. Most people aren't outrageously greedy and grasping, Hortensis Mar 2021 #44

so this one thing qazplm135 Mar 2021 #17

Exactly PatSeg Mar 2021 #21

Yes, they were promised $2000 liskddksil Mar 2021 #24

who is they? qazplm135 Mar 2021 #43

Yes for those making $80-100K, the promise is broken. liskddksil Mar 2021 #48

it's not true qazplm135 Mar 2021 #66

People want simple and fair policies. We continue to lose elections because we try to get cute and liskddksil Mar 2021 #73

yeah qazplm135 Mar 2021 #74

We lost Seats in the House, only won the Senate because of Georgia, and lost almost liskddksil Mar 2021 #75

we won the House, Senate and White House qazplm135 Mar 2021 #78

No, but shame on those who'd feel cheated at not getting handouts Hortensis Mar 2021 #46

"Handouts", are you kidding me? These are survival checks. And $80,000 in many cities liskddksil Mar 2021 #49

Sorry, but a single person making $80K without savings, without Hortensis Mar 2021 #65

What world is weighted in anyone's favor right now? This is a pandemic! Plus millennials have never liskddksil Mar 2021 #70

These days skilled people are their own production centers. Do you imagine Hortensis Mar 2021 #77

You know, I can't begin to imagine making $80,000 PatSeg Mar 2021 #85

Yes. Some beyond doubt. Hortensis Mar 2021 #102

Yes, this administration is off to a great start PatSeg Mar 2021 #106

1400 bucks qazplm135 Mar 2021 #94

Well, this is also meant to be stimulus, and some dollars Hortensis Mar 2021 #103

If someone is making $80,000 (or $160,000 for a couple) PatSeg Mar 2021 #105

Minimum wage should be $40 per hour because people making 80k are barely surviving MichMan Mar 2021 #82

+1 betsuni Mar 2021 #92

Yup. The average voter is far more interested in their own pocketbook, than any lagomorph777 Mar 2021 #23

Yep, Republicans are already tearing into us for this liskddksil Mar 2021 #25

lol qazplm135 Mar 2021 #45

Guarantee it voters will care when they use this later when the 22 and 24 campaigns ramp up. Autumn Mar 2021 #88

no qazplm135 Mar 2021 #91

They will use that and people will remember. Autumn Mar 2021 #96

nah qazplm135 Mar 2021 #100

And I don't care bdamomma Mar 2021 #99

This is the point that gets me. How stupid do we have to be to capitulate ANYTHING to them? Doremus Mar 2021 #72

Nobody knows that. The proposal was just released an hour or two ago AND it's not final. George II Mar 2021 #54

A stimulus bill guaranteed to piss off anyone who gets cut off... regnaD kciN Mar 2021 #34

So positively comparing trump to Democrats is good? George II Mar 2021 #52

"Moderates" are the Reason we Won Cha Mar 2021 #57

These moderates in States like WV and AZ are occupying a seat that has been red. grantcart Mar 2021 #79

More helpful than Manchin and Sinema, that's for sure. jorgevlorgan Mar 2021 #26

No, she's not. Magoo48 Mar 2021 #37

She's more helpful and realistic than any other politician. If you think that this won't piss off Autumn Mar 2021 #87

What doesn't she understand? Let me make this simple, Manchin, and a couple of other JohnSJ Mar 2021 #4

Its not just Manchin sabotoging this. Jeanne Sheehan and other "moderates" wanted this change liskddksil Mar 2021 #5

There has gotta be a workaround ... mdelaguna Mar 2021 #13

The only way is for the congressional progressives to announce they will not vote for liskddksil Mar 2021 #15

How possible do you think that is? jorgevlorgan Mar 2021 #28

Unlikely but you never know nt liskddksil Mar 2021 #30

I wonder if they will just take out the parts overruled by the parliamentarian jorgevlorgan Mar 2021 #31

...and then any democrats voting to change it could be blamed for killing the bill jorgevlorgan Mar 2021 #33

Some bold Dems need to threaten to vote it down leftstreet Mar 2021 #20

Yes. That is why I referenced a generic couple of other Democratic Senators, also in my statement JohnSJ Mar 2021 #18

But they did not get 1400 under moonscape Mar 2021 #86

Biden said he can unite Republicans wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #8

+1 leftstreet Mar 2021 #11

He said he would try, but that ended the moment they countered with a 600 billion package JohnSJ Mar 2021 #22

Could anyone do a better job as President than Biden? Why the immediate negative connotation? George II Mar 2021 #67

If Biden had better coattails during the election, we wouldn't be having this conversation wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #76

I honestly can't imagine any president doing a better job than Biden PatSeg Mar 2021 #84

It's about what he said he'd do. Cuthbert Allgood Mar 2021 #114

Pity she isn't in the Senate to vote against it nt AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2021 #14

Why not call out the Republicans? treestar Mar 2021 #27

No, the Democrats are the ones who negotiated this change. Republicans are already liskddksil Mar 2021 #29

I sure wish I was that not rich. OriginalGeek Mar 2021 #39

The Rubio statements doesn't even make sense treestar Mar 2021 #40

just so I'm clear qazplm135 Mar 2021 #47

Oh so now even Marco Rubio is better than our Democrats? By the way, do you even know what.... George II Mar 2021 #59

I'm just commenting on what's reported now in case its not to late to make things right nt liskddksil Mar 2021 #60

Marco Rubio's opinion is hardly relevant PatSeg Mar 2021 #89

160K, once income tax at state and federal levels, property taxes, Celerity Mar 2021 #95

Only 8% of American households PatSeg Mar 2021 #104

Now you are moving the goalposts. I stand 100% behind my analysis and I Celerity Mar 2021 #107

Actually I do know PatSeg Mar 2021 #110

I do not want to fight either. I just think this was a self-inflicted wound that certainly doesn't Celerity Mar 2021 #111

I think we are still going through withdrawal PatSeg Mar 2021 #112

I forgot to ask, you're in NH, what are the odds (given our shit record in first midterms for Dem Celerity Mar 2021 #121

Honestly, I was surprised that Sununu PatSeg Mar 2021 #122

the Rethugs flipped both the NH House and Senate to give them their 23rd state trifecta Celerity Mar 2021 #123

It is funny how many states elect Democrats PatSeg Mar 2021 #124

it so fucks us in terms of gerrymandering at state and federal levels and running elections as well Celerity Mar 2021 #125

AOC is an asset to The Democratic Party. Glad We have her. Tommymac Mar 2021 #32

Post removed Post removed Mar 2021 #56

Nope nt liskddksil Mar 2021 #63

Read her tweet again, please. Thanks. George II Mar 2021 #68

Why is it acceptable to "call out Democrats" especially when they're praising trump in the process? George II Mar 2021 #50

Post removed Post removed Mar 2021 #53

The number of people not getting a check is virtually zero, this is a proposal to scale down.... George II Mar 2021 #55

Where did I praise Trump? I'm just doing math liskddksil Mar 2021 #58

The subject of your OP is saying trump is better than our Democrats. George II Mar 2021 #61

I don't think it is nt liskddksil Mar 2021 #62

You are correct it isn't ChubbyStar Mar 2021 #69

Thats not at what it says even remotely jcgoldie Mar 2021 #93

No it isn't. Not even close George. Autumn Mar 2021 #97

Your math is wrong dansolo Mar 2021 #119

AOC is right about this. aikoaiko Mar 2021 #51

Simple solution. Traildogbob Mar 2021 #64

So all of Wisconsin gets zero checks? Cuthbert Allgood Mar 2021 #115

Just registered republicans. Traildogbob Mar 2021 #116

We don't register here, so... Cuthbert Allgood Mar 2021 #117

If all the Traildogbob Mar 2021 #118

Look, realistically Traildogbob Mar 2021 #120

Maybe she could have said it differently but I agree... electric_blue68 Mar 2021 #71

Who's she rescuing? mcar Mar 2021 #80

Unlikely she can stop the train at this point, but 12 million people who should be liskddksil Mar 2021 #81

She's right... there was absolutely no reason to do this budkin Mar 2021 #90

yes, yes it is Celerity Mar 2021 #109

Tweet threads blaming Biden/Democrats because zero Republican votes betsuni Mar 2021 #101

If it's a stimulus payment, give it to as many people as fiscally possible. BusyBeingBest Mar 2021 #108

Plus those who are still making money... lame54 Mar 2021 #113