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JohnSJ

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13. Yes, I read your post, and your assumption that he is "radioactive to the trumpers" doesn't hold

Thu Mar 4, 2021, 02:54 PM

Mar 2021

They would love for manchin to switch parties, and I have no doubt they would give him whatever committee he wanted to be on

This is what you are dealing with manchin:

https://marshallparthenon.com/24935/news/manchin-says-he-may-vote-trump-despite-voting-to-impeach-him/

The way to deal with manchin is elect more Democratic Senators in 2022, and in the meantime try to change the Senate filibuster rules

This is the guy who said if Sanders was the nominee he would vote for trump in 2020

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It's time to put the squeeze on Joe Manchin. Here's how. [View all] wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 OP

Would that push him to change parties, and we lose the majority? JohnSJ Mar 2021 #1

Didn't you read my post? wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #2

EXACTLY right. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2021 #3

I think they'd hold their nose and accept him, Aristus Mar 2021 #4

trumpanzees are tribal little rats wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #5

He would still lose his Primary in 2024 to a Trump-approved candidate Fiendish Thingy Mar 2021 #19

+1 lagomorph777 Mar 2021 #24

Not only can he change parties bottomofthehill Mar 2021 #8

But he's not going to keep his seat wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #12

He has it for 4 more years and if he switched, I would not bet against him holding it bottomofthehill Mar 2021 #15

If he switches, he loses any influence he thought he had wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #16

Plus, they never, ever break ranks Bettie Mar 2021 #31

Yep, show him there is much more to be had in playing ball with the Dems wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #43

Yes, I read your post, and your assumption that he is "radioactive to the trumpers" doesn't hold JohnSJ Mar 2021 #13

Doesn't matter, he voted twice to convict trump wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #20

From my perspective it isn't worth taking the chance. Short term I would like to see Schumer JohnSJ Mar 2021 #23

We make Manchin an example to the other wayward Dems wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #44

Washington DC and Puerto Rico should become states !!!! NOW!!! Trueblue1968 Mar 2021 #29

I agree, especially with Washington DC, and Puerto Rico if they want, but I am not sure if JohnSJ Mar 2021 #32

Also, if we don't accomplish some big things, the Republicans Mike 03 Mar 2021 #25

I'm sorry, Mitch WOULD MOST DEFINITELY accept his return to the party. msfiddlestix Mar 2021 #39

Manchin is finished if he switches wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #53

He'll be like Lieberman msfiddlestix Mar 2021 #58

And look at Lieberman now wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #59

I can't read what kind of future he's hoping for, who or what he cares about msfiddlestix Mar 2021 #60

We had a chance to put Manchin to pasture last year wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #63

As we were in this discussion, I had Lawrence O'donnell on background msfiddlestix Mar 2021 #64

okay will watch wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #65

Just watched the repeat wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #66

What is baffling is why Schumer didn't ensure rule change to this end. msfiddlestix Mar 2021 #67

Romney voted to convict Trump also and he is still a Republican JI7 Mar 2021 #48

Utah is a safe seat for Romney. WV is not safe wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #55

Other than Manchin it is a safe Republican seat JI7 Mar 2021 #56

That's the point, it's not safe for Manchin wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #57

They would welcome him with open arms and kisses to get the majority away from us. aikoaiko Mar 2021 #61

It's either that or have Manchin grind the Senate to the halt wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #62

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2021 #68

I don't think he's running again JustAnotherGen Mar 2021 #6

If he's not running again wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #10

If he changes parties into the majority bottomofthehill Mar 2021 #17

Then he loses any influence he had wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #18

They will buy him and give him whatever it takes to keep him. bottomofthehill Mar 2021 #22

The Republican caucus would gladly accept him andym Mar 2021 #7

No goop would elect someone who voted to convict 45 wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #11

To gain the majority, then would do it in a drop of a dime JohnSJ Mar 2021 #14

Fox News/OAN etc torius Mar 2021 #26

That's the stick, and include a carrot, too. Massive wind farm and energy storage projects. lagomorph777 Mar 2021 #9

This exactly nt Unwind Your Mind Mar 2021 #28

YES! +1000 Duppers Mar 2021 #34

Turn up the heat- keep his feet to the fire! Fiendish Thingy Mar 2021 #21

Explain how Manchin will "kill his career"... brooklynite Mar 2021 #37

Progressive groups are already mobilizing his constituents and raising funds Fiendish Thingy Mar 2021 #41

Are Progressive groups idiotic enough to try to Primary Manchin from the left? brooklynite Mar 2021 #46

Enough will be idiodic enough to sit out the 2024 election wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #52

I understand people who say, "We need to protect this senate seat" but my view Mike 03 Mar 2021 #27

It may become necessary to deep-freeze the Senate until after the 2022 election. NCjack Mar 2021 #33

K&R Blue Owl Mar 2021 #30

I cut Joe Manchin a fair bit of slack jobendorfer Mar 2021 #35

+1 lagomorph777 Mar 2021 #40

We gave him enough of a leash wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #45

Let us know what Schumer thinks of your idea... brooklynite Mar 2021 #36

And all Joe Manchin has to do is just threaten to resign Wanderlust988 Mar 2021 #38

Make Manchin put up or shut up Fiendish Thingy Mar 2021 #42

Well if he puts up and resigns, we're effectively done for the next 2 years Wanderlust988 Mar 2021 #47

And if he digs in and refuses to budge on the filibuster, we're done for the next 10+ years Fiendish Thingy Mar 2021 #49

No that's not a fact Wanderlust988 Mar 2021 #50

Manchin can still hold judicial nominees hostage Fiendish Thingy Mar 2021 #54

It seems like Manchin is using Sanders as an example of how to wield Nixie Mar 2021 #51