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bottomofthehill

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17. If he changes parties into the majority

Thu Mar 4, 2021, 02:57 PM

Mar 2021

He will be a hero to the Right the minority ( Dems if he changes) will hate him but have no way to punish him. Unfortunately we did not pick up NC or ME and he holds the cards.

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It's time to put the squeeze on Joe Manchin. Here's how. [View all] wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 OP

Would that push him to change parties, and we lose the majority? JohnSJ Mar 2021 #1

Didn't you read my post? wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #2

EXACTLY right. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2021 #3

I think they'd hold their nose and accept him, Aristus Mar 2021 #4

trumpanzees are tribal little rats wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #5

He would still lose his Primary in 2024 to a Trump-approved candidate Fiendish Thingy Mar 2021 #19

+1 lagomorph777 Mar 2021 #24

Not only can he change parties bottomofthehill Mar 2021 #8

But he's not going to keep his seat wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #12

He has it for 4 more years and if he switched, I would not bet against him holding it bottomofthehill Mar 2021 #15

If he switches, he loses any influence he thought he had wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #16

Plus, they never, ever break ranks Bettie Mar 2021 #31

Yep, show him there is much more to be had in playing ball with the Dems wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #43

Yes, I read your post, and your assumption that he is "radioactive to the trumpers" doesn't hold JohnSJ Mar 2021 #13

Doesn't matter, he voted twice to convict trump wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #20

From my perspective it isn't worth taking the chance. Short term I would like to see Schumer JohnSJ Mar 2021 #23

We make Manchin an example to the other wayward Dems wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #44

Washington DC and Puerto Rico should become states !!!! NOW!!! Trueblue1968 Mar 2021 #29

I agree, especially with Washington DC, and Puerto Rico if they want, but I am not sure if JohnSJ Mar 2021 #32

Also, if we don't accomplish some big things, the Republicans Mike 03 Mar 2021 #25

I'm sorry, Mitch WOULD MOST DEFINITELY accept his return to the party. msfiddlestix Mar 2021 #39

Manchin is finished if he switches wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #53

He'll be like Lieberman msfiddlestix Mar 2021 #58

And look at Lieberman now wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #59

I can't read what kind of future he's hoping for, who or what he cares about msfiddlestix Mar 2021 #60

We had a chance to put Manchin to pasture last year wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #63

As we were in this discussion, I had Lawrence O'donnell on background msfiddlestix Mar 2021 #64

okay will watch wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #65

Just watched the repeat wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #66

What is baffling is why Schumer didn't ensure rule change to this end. msfiddlestix Mar 2021 #67

Romney voted to convict Trump also and he is still a Republican JI7 Mar 2021 #48

Utah is a safe seat for Romney. WV is not safe wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #55

Other than Manchin it is a safe Republican seat JI7 Mar 2021 #56

That's the point, it's not safe for Manchin wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #57

They would welcome him with open arms and kisses to get the majority away from us. aikoaiko Mar 2021 #61

It's either that or have Manchin grind the Senate to the halt wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #62

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2021 #68

I don't think he's running again JustAnotherGen Mar 2021 #6

If he's not running again wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #10

If he changes parties into the majority bottomofthehill Mar 2021 #17

Then he loses any influence he had wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #18

They will buy him and give him whatever it takes to keep him. bottomofthehill Mar 2021 #22

The Republican caucus would gladly accept him andym Mar 2021 #7

No goop would elect someone who voted to convict 45 wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #11

To gain the majority, then would do it in a drop of a dime JohnSJ Mar 2021 #14

Fox News/OAN etc torius Mar 2021 #26

That's the stick, and include a carrot, too. Massive wind farm and energy storage projects. lagomorph777 Mar 2021 #9

This exactly nt Unwind Your Mind Mar 2021 #28

YES! +1000 Duppers Mar 2021 #34

Turn up the heat- keep his feet to the fire! Fiendish Thingy Mar 2021 #21

Explain how Manchin will "kill his career"... brooklynite Mar 2021 #37

Progressive groups are already mobilizing his constituents and raising funds Fiendish Thingy Mar 2021 #41

Are Progressive groups idiotic enough to try to Primary Manchin from the left? brooklynite Mar 2021 #46

Enough will be idiodic enough to sit out the 2024 election wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #52

I understand people who say, "We need to protect this senate seat" but my view Mike 03 Mar 2021 #27

It may become necessary to deep-freeze the Senate until after the 2022 election. NCjack Mar 2021 #33

K&R Blue Owl Mar 2021 #30

I cut Joe Manchin a fair bit of slack jobendorfer Mar 2021 #35

+1 lagomorph777 Mar 2021 #40

We gave him enough of a leash wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #45

Let us know what Schumer thinks of your idea... brooklynite Mar 2021 #36

And all Joe Manchin has to do is just threaten to resign Wanderlust988 Mar 2021 #38

Make Manchin put up or shut up Fiendish Thingy Mar 2021 #42

Well if he puts up and resigns, we're effectively done for the next 2 years Wanderlust988 Mar 2021 #47

And if he digs in and refuses to budge on the filibuster, we're done for the next 10+ years Fiendish Thingy Mar 2021 #49

No that's not a fact Wanderlust988 Mar 2021 #50

Manchin can still hold judicial nominees hostage Fiendish Thingy Mar 2021 #54

It seems like Manchin is using Sanders as an example of how to wield Nixie Mar 2021 #51