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52. Once you bring religion into the forum

Reply to redqueen (Reply #18)

Thu Oct 11, 2012, 10:24 PM

Oct 2012

then it's fair game to ask about Mormonism's Lying for God, etc.

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******WRAPPING UP! OFFICIAL BIDEN/RYAN DEBATE THREAD #5****** [View all] riderinthestorm Oct 2012 OP

Catholicism, now. nt Honeycombe8 Oct 2012 #1

The moderator is so freaking SMARMY, it's gag-worthy. And why should RELIGION matter to the LAW? MU- WinkyDink Oct 2012 #2

Whatever guides their philosophy, their thinking, their political position....matters. It matters to Honeycombe8 Oct 2012 #9

Catholic JFK had an answer, and he disagreed with yours, to wit: WinkyDink Oct 2012 #35

From The American President: The people have a way of deciding on their own what's important to them Honeycombe8 Oct 2012 #76

So go argue with JFK. ANYONE can claim to be religious; even Bush claimed it. WinkyDink Oct 2012 #89

Beg to differ. It's on the table, and is an important part of policy. nolabear Oct 2012 #11

Really? Since when? Did anyone ask Ike about being Episcopalian? WinkyDink Oct 2012 #19

How many debates was Ike in? Was there a time when people wouldn't vote for Episc.? Honeycombe8 Oct 2012 #91

IMO, a good politician would say our govt is SECULAR. WinkyDink Oct 2012 #140

It's been brutal so far. Lars39 Oct 2012 #3

Ryan respects people who don't agree with his pro-life position, BUT..... nt Honeycombe8 Oct 2012 #4

David Shuster tweet: Repubs loudly complaining about debate moderator. It's another sign the GOP highplainsdem Oct 2012 #5

ask them how they feel about Ayn Rand n/t Enrique Oct 2012 #6

Oh crap, it Abortion and your religion to wrap up Up2Late Oct 2012 #7

Joe will pound Ryan over his rape apology votes. Ikonoklast Oct 2012 #8

Not the right of religions to force others into their beliefs. Sorry Ryan. Fearless Oct 2012 #10

The moderator Flatpicker Oct 2012 #12

His religious beliefs inform his thinking on how to treat the vulnerable?? gkhouston Oct 2012 #13

FU Ryan. My reproductive rights come before your damned Catholic church Lars39 Oct 2012 #14

Why Catholicism? Why not Pastafarianism? RoccoR5955 Oct 2012 #15

Pastafarianism? Mrs. Ted Nancy Oct 2012 #79

Okay, so you want freedom of religion. Then don't enforce your anti-abortion rhetoric on people! JTG of the PRB Oct 2012 #16

Ryan's personal relationship with his catholicism...he turned it into an Obamacare argument? nt Honeycombe8 Oct 2012 #17

I can't believe she brought religion into it. redqueen Oct 2012 #18

Strange. Gregorian Oct 2012 #27

Who cares? Ryan still flubbed it and Biden didn't. randome Oct 2012 #46

Once you bring religion into the forum matt819 Oct 2012 #52

Thank you Joe Biden! Lars39 Oct 2012 #20

CNN focus group TOTALLY on Joe's side on abortion issue. nolabear Oct 2012 #21

To me, the name Bean means that TlalocW Oct 2012 #22

Well I just read two Alice Miller books, and I also agree. Gregorian Oct 2012 #42

I just think of Mr. Bean Poiuyt Oct 2012 #54

THANK YOU JOE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! redqueen Oct 2012 #23

NICE! Biden: I refuse to impose my catholic doctrine on to other of other religion. Up2Late Oct 2012 #24

My Friend Here, the Congressman Flatpicker Oct 2012 #25

I believe that in some cases, abortion should be retroactive RoccoR5955 Oct 2012 #26

Only in the case of Flatpicker Oct 2012 #40

Kudos to Joe for bringing up Robert Bork. highplainsdem Oct 2012 #28

And slammed Scalia! NT ballabosh Oct 2012 #37

Bork is Romney's advisor for S.Ct.? Wow, I didn't know that. nt Honeycombe8 Oct 2012 #29

I thought Flatpicker Oct 2012 #30

That depends Mrs. Ted Nancy Oct 2012 #112

potential supreme court nominees KewlKat Oct 2012 #31

Did Ryan practice smirking with Romney or what? n/t porphyrian Oct 2012 #32

Biden smartly goes to Supreme Court. nolabear Oct 2012 #33

His son will serve? llmart Oct 2012 #34

Oh, he'll serve....on some private-school doubles team. WinkyDink Oct 2012 #53

I want to hug Joe for his abortion answer. MadrasT Oct 2012 #36

+1 nt Honeycombe8 Oct 2012 #41

Negative campaigning, now. nt Honeycombe8 Oct 2012 #38

AND Ryan goes back to GOP Talking Points on Abortion! Up2Late Oct 2012 #39

Biden threw the "forcible rape" back in Ryan's face meow2u3 Oct 2012 #43

47% KewlKat Oct 2012 #44

I like Biden's answer re negative campaigning. nt Honeycombe8 Oct 2012 #45

Haven't been able to watch. How's he doing? LittleBlue Oct 2012 #47

Objectively? Biden is freaking brilliant. nolabear Oct 2012 #56

Joe is just plain smokin' in tonight's debate. Nonstop. 1-Old-Man Oct 2012 #58

Thanks. I was worried after the last Obama debate LittleBlue Oct 2012 #75

I watched a little, but roody Oct 2012 #109

Got his email from Joe: My promise to you and Barack tonight siligut Oct 2012 #48

"Great Recession" reference by Biden. Me likey. nt Honeycombe8 Oct 2012 #49

Mike Signorile: The CNN undecided voter graph dipping down sharply on Ryan's abortion positions, in highplainsdem Oct 2012 #50

As we head to the finish, I want to thank all you guys for the blow by blow for those of us who were Squinch Oct 2012 #51

Good on Biden for blowing off that stupid-ass question Enrique Oct 2012 #55

Joe is being very calm and reasoned now sfpcjock Oct 2012 #57

joe is the best. i want to thank him for his service all these years. spanone Oct 2012 #59

I can't stand this little piece of lying shit. nm nc4bo Oct 2012 #60

Ryan's answering "negative campaigning" question with, you guessed it, negative statements! nt Honeycombe8 Oct 2012 #61

And all his right-wing talking points - lies. nm nc4bo Oct 2012 #65

Yep! Sure didn't see THAT one coming! JTG of the PRB Oct 2012 #72

this run from crap must be the newest GOP talking points.....it irritates the hell out of me. KewlKat Oct 2012 #62

Wrapping up, I think Up2Late Oct 2012 #63

If Ryan thinks people should run from Obama's record, what should we do with his? JTG of the PRB Oct 2012 #64

I think most people have tuned the little twerp out by now..... llmart Oct 2012 #66

Agreed. redqueen Oct 2012 #78

xbox live poll Flatpicker Oct 2012 #67

Chuck Todd: Biden did what Obama team wanted: fired up the base; reassured those who were nervous highplainsdem Oct 2012 #68

Ryan is giving Joe a lot to answer at the end. Probably why he saved it until now. WinkyDink Oct 2012 #69

"I just got my ass kicked, but I can sure spew a load of lies for my encore!" bullwinkle428 Oct 2012 #70

Ryan's pulling out the lying talking points for his wrap up. Liberal In Texas Oct 2012 #71

Yep. And he's presenting exactly zero new ideas. LOSER... Gregorian Oct 2012 #80

Ryan is demonstrating the question Bobbie Jo Oct 2012 #73

Kos: They'll need a stretcher to haul Ryan off the stage. highplainsdem Oct 2012 #74

And a table for the diaper change Iris Oct 2012 #82

Biden's Closing has to be Big. kerouac2 Oct 2012 #77

Isn't the 12mm jobs thing an estimate based on no matter who is prez? kerouac2 Oct 2012 #101

So, Joe won't get as much time? WinkyDink Oct 2012 #81

Yep. redqueen Oct 2012 #86

Mitt Romney is not Uniquely Qualified to be a dog catcher. Flatpicker Oct 2012 #83

Now, if "Dog Abuser" were an elected office... n/t gkhouston Oct 2012 #88

Go Joe! He's talking about the rAyn budget meow2u3 Oct 2012 #84

Ryan voted to put two wars on a credit card. nt Honeycombe8 Oct 2012 #85

OH NICE! Another LIE to wrap up from Ryan! We've had 4 Budgets??? Up2Late Oct 2012 #87

Only Eddie Munster could provide "honesty" sfpcjock Oct 2012 #90

HONESTY? *cough*marathontime*cough* bullwinkle428 Oct 2012 #92

I laughed out loud when I heard him utter that word! JTG of the PRB Oct 2012 #100

Ryan knows he's lost it..... llmart Oct 2012 #93

Honesty? Flatpicker Oct 2012 #94

LOL Honesty ?? Bobbie Jo Oct 2012 #95

So sick of hearing how Obama broke his promise to work with Congress nobodyspecial Oct 2012 #96

honesty mrs_p Oct 2012 #97

Lyin' Ryan talking about being honest? meow2u3 Oct 2012 #98

Ryan wouldn't recognize honesty if it bit him in the ass Lars39 Oct 2012 #99

What a squirrelly MF'er Bobbie Jo Oct 2012 #121

Who is the moderator, anyway? (I know: Google.) She likes to argue with Joe. WinkyDink Oct 2012 #102

"Look at my record. It's been all about the middle class." highplainsdem Oct 2012 #103

Who, me honest? Say it ain't so Joe. Gregorian Oct 2012 #104

Biden: Look at my record. It's about the middle class. Me likey. The truth. nt Honeycombe8 Oct 2012 #105

A bullshit question at the end. AlinPA Oct 2012 #106

David Corn: Ryan is advocating politicians who stick to what they say. Of all Romney's talents, that highplainsdem Oct 2012 #107

Joe, look at the camera! Liberal In Texas Oct 2012 #108

I liked it Flatpicker Oct 2012 #114

Biden: "We inherited a God awful (pause) circumstance" tawadi Oct 2012 #110

End it on the 47% Flatpicker Oct 2012 #111

Oh, no. Ryan looking earnestly at the camera, at me. Oooooh. Kinda creepy. Insincere. nt Honeycombe8 Oct 2012 #113

ROFL! Karl Rove tweets that he misses Jim Lehrer! highplainsdem Oct 2012 #115

Ryan just looks evil. I'm sorry. Gregorian Oct 2012 #116

Ryan looking right into the camera gives me the willies. JTG of the PRB Oct 2012 #117

Wait 'til you see him looking right into your window. gkhouston Oct 2012 #126

AHHHHH!!!! Flatpicker Oct 2012 #136

Joe's closing statement brought tears to my eyes. MadrasT Oct 2012 #118

Oh god. I hope the poor don't buy this bullshit. eom tawadi Oct 2012 #119

"Mitt Romney and I want to earn your support." Suuuuure. WinkyDink Oct 2012 #120

Not in this universe, in this lifetime, on this planet! n/t RoccoR5955 Oct 2012 #125

Ryan's closing statement is just a rehash. KO Joe wins! nolabear Oct 2012 #122

...And I want to thank you, Joe... Up2Late Oct 2012 #123

WHAT founding principles? They change their policy positions like other people change pants! redqueen Oct 2012 #124

Mitt and Ryan are aboard the USS Duck the Issues........... KewlKat Oct 2012 #127

Wow. Loved that. And agree with Rachel that it was 90 minutes that felt like 9 minutes. highplainsdem Oct 2012 #128

Two for two - can we do this more? mjjoe Oct 2012 #129

man, i hope the pundits spin this truthfully! trailmonkee Oct 2012 #130

Ryan always reminds of a smarmy, douchebag frat boy JCMach1 Oct 2012 #131

Ryan got a few shots in. But I declare Biden the winner!!!!!! GO MR V P, GO!!!! WELL DONE! nt Honeycombe8 Oct 2012 #132

Kick Ass Joe! Bobbie Jo Oct 2012 #133

Finally, I've figured her out! Martha was imitating Diane Sawyer's faux-earnest style! WinkyDink Oct 2012 #134

Wolfie declared the debate a draw. OMG. WinkyDink Oct 2012 #135

Are they on drugs? KewlKat Oct 2012 #137

Wolfie is bought and paid for - that is no surprise. nt TBF Oct 2012 #139

Ahh, So now we get the comedy portion of the night. Flatpicker Oct 2012 #141

That's what I'm hearing as well from another place TlalocW Oct 2012 #142

And now Ryan can safely be put back in his casket for another day's rest. Garlic and a stake please. Gregorian Oct 2012 #138