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Ms. Toad

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8. This is an old re-kindled argument. Went through it in my school district in the 70s and 80s.
Sun Mar 7, 2021, 01:06 PM
Mar 2021

Let's say a school district is on semesters (just to paint the best argument for this scheme). Whether you pass the year (or have to retake the class) depends on whether your average, at the end of the year, i above 60% (or whatever the cutoff is for passing).

If you don't bother to turn a thing in 1st semester and earn 0%, why even bother doing anything second semester? The highest you can earn for the year is 50% (0% + 100%)/2 = 50%. So you're stuck with kids who have no hope of passing that you ave to try to motivate to work during the second semester - even though they know they will be retaking the class.

So the goal was to avoid taking away all hope from students who were doomed to fail, no matter what they did.

Obviously, the more grading periods, the less this makes any sense.

My argument to the contrary was that I had students who were working as hard as they could, and couldn't manage to earn much more. It was unfair to reward the goof-offs by giving them almost the same grade as those who were working their hardest.

There are other ways to address the problem:

Go to a 4.0 grading system (where there isn't a huge point range in what is failing (0-1, as opposed to 0-59). Create a look-back system: Promise students who steadily improve their performance that they will only be penalized 1 letter grade for 1st grading period performance, etc.

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What is the reasoning behind this? Bettie Mar 2021 #1
Supposedly its helps keep students from getting discouraged. ripcord Mar 2021 #3
Ugh. Not that again. paleotn Mar 2021 #4
One of my mottoes in college was Turbineguy Mar 2021 #7
Whereas 58% means one quiz could pull a grade up to a big "C" carrot. Hortensis Mar 2021 #19
Something about how a zero can be so damaging to the kid's self-esteem Rocknation Mar 2021 #5
This is an old re-kindled argument. Went through it in my school district in the 70s and 80s. Ms. Toad Mar 2021 #8
I really like your idea about "look back" KentuckyWoman Mar 2021 #15
The way you suggested makes sense Bettie Mar 2021 #17
There were a lot of different factors in my school district. Ms. Toad Mar 2021 #21
Our grandkids (and their parents) now get continuous computerized Hortensis Mar 2021 #20
I'm against it because it "discriminates" against those who earn their mark of 50 "legitimately". Rocknation Mar 2021 #2
Same argument I made back in the 70s & 80s. Ms. Toad Mar 2021 #9
What's their incentive to work at all Bettie Mar 2021 #12
This is why we have summer school tirebiter Mar 2021 #6
Just to play devil's advocate - Ms. Toad Mar 2021 #11
Move them to a special class... where they can succeed at SOMEthing... albacore Mar 2021 #26
In the classes I taught, Ms. Toad Mar 2021 #30
"There is no money available." Don't I know that! American priorities are SO screwed. nt albacore Mar 2021 #31
Kind of like the old SAT where yo got points for knowing your name. Hoyt Mar 2021 #10
Unfair? taxi Mar 2021 #13
Are the kids remote on in school for classes? lapucelle Mar 2021 #14
gives teachers a good reason to slack off if kids don't actually have to learn enuff to msongs Mar 2021 #16
That's pretty offensive. Ms. Toad Mar 2021 #22
Wrong answer to the problem zipplewrath Mar 2021 #18
Former teacher here pinkstarburst Mar 2021 #23
This is the correct answer kcr Mar 2021 #28
I have a problem with this for all assignments dsc Mar 2021 #24
a 50 is failing but a really bad grade in the first semester can destroy the entire year so I Demsrule86 Mar 2021 #25
It's a difficult issue mcar Mar 2021 #27
The High School my grandchildren attend has developed a unique way of handling this. Desert grandma Mar 2021 #29
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