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98. But she wasn't "way down the line"

Mon Mar 8, 2021, 01:03 AM

Mar 2021

She was 3rd in line at birth, and after Edward abdicated and her father became king she was the heir presumptive. She was raised to be the sovereign. Sorry, I don't buy this excuse. And if she doesn't want the job, she can abdicate: there is precedent.

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Meghan and Oprah interview...holy shit! [View all] superpatriotman Mar 2021 OP

I could not watch that. Reeks of palace intrigue on all sides. I am currently watching applegrove Mar 2021 #1

The royals and their institution were monsters in the crown, too superpatriotman Mar 2021 #10

I'm only at the start of season two. I've been aware of all the compromises people made applegrove Mar 2021 #12

...said Alice, through the Looking Glass. illegal smile Mar 2021 #23

Do you mean a mirror or something out of the norm? applegrove Mar 2021 #28

The Crown is so highly fictionalized that I gave up after the second PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2021 #62

I wish that family peace as i do any family. If that be together or apart applegrove Mar 2021 #63

The extreme fictionalization is exactly what made me cringe. PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2021 #71

I used to not be able to tolerate historical fictions. I would put a book down applegrove Mar 2021 #80

Early Michener novels are pretty good. PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2021 #111

Sorry, the Crown is what one would term historical fiction. luvtheGWN Mar 2021 #84

I believe Meghan and Harry. Racism was clearly involved. n/t pnwmom Mar 2021 #99

Oh yes. I believe that too. applegrove Mar 2021 #102

I'm finding the interview interesting and horrifying at the same time. lkinwi Mar 2021 #2

Yes elleng Mar 2021 #9

CHARLES IS SUCH A JERK. I can't stand him Trueblue1968 Mar 2021 #89

A couple friends and I were texting during the interview and were guessing that Charles was the lkinwi Mar 2021 #129

She walked naively into a fking asylum of control. Harry took his family & fled Budi Mar 2021 #3

Didn't Harry warn her? wnylib Mar 2021 #54

When you live in a dysfunctional family, it can be difficult to see just how bad it is... Hekate Mar 2021 #83

I read a long time ago that Harry suspected wnylib Mar 2021 #100

Harry as he has gotten older musette_sf Mar 2021 #115

Oh my. Half Phillip or half Charles? wnylib Mar 2021 #117

Ok Oprah, here ya go! Now That's a SCANDAL! Budi Mar 2021 #119

I think the poster that I responded to wnylib Mar 2021 #120

Is that the 100 yr old Phillip? Lol. Hey weirder things have happened! Budi Mar 2021 #122

Philip is his grandfather who he looks exactly like JI7 Mar 2021 #123

Harry looks like Phillip??? wnylib Mar 2021 #124

When Diana's brother read her eulogy, iirc he was a redhead. I always thought that's where Harry... Hekate Mar 2021 #126

Understatement on Charles' appearance. wnylib Mar 2021 #127

This. EOM Scottie Mom Mar 2021 #136

They did the same to Diana..she also got suicidal...she threw herself down a flight of stairs HipChick Mar 2021 #4

Harry was afraid his wife would end up like his mother, Diana superpatriotman Mar 2021 #5

And baby Archie has no title or security. That's just sick. Plus there was talk Maraya1969 Mar 2021 #16

Will not Archie inherit the Duchy of Sussex? Happy Hoosier Mar 2021 #46

Archie is persona non grata superpatriotman Mar 2021 #52

Is there a source for that? Happy Hoosier Mar 2021 #78

There are conspiracy theorists who believe Meghan used a surrogate, NYC Liberal Mar 2021 #88

lol figures treestar Mar 2021 #147

I read it all here at CNN Maraya1969 Mar 2021 #140

I don't think that says what you think that says. Happy Hoosier Mar 2021 #145

Who would want it? wnylib Mar 2021 #53

He can renounce it if he wishes, I suppose. Happy Hoosier Mar 2021 #79

I was surprised when my genealogy wnylib Mar 2021 #94

I am careful not confuse romance with reality Happy Hoosier Mar 2021 #95

Now they limit their dysfunction to wnylib Mar 2021 #103

Other Royals have no titles kskiska Mar 2021 #90

Neither do I, and I get by Retrograde Mar 2021 #97

They chose to give up their royal pinkstarburst Mar 2021 #141

We thought we'd watch a few minutes frazzled Mar 2021 #6

Yeah, my jaw dropped when I heard Charles wasn't accepting Harry's calls! Talitha Mar 2021 #45

This shows we made the right decision in 1776...scumbags. Look at Brexit...brought about by Demsrule86 Mar 2021 #138

Unsurprising, given the history of the institution; refreshing to see it spelled out so explicitly. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2021 #7

Rats! I forgot! Ilsa Mar 2021 #8

I just read about it on CNN. I'd like to know where it will play later also because Maraya1969 Mar 2021 #18

Here goes. There was racist speculation about how brown... brush Mar 2021 #105

I had seen numerous comparisons of how media Ilsa Mar 2021 #144

I once heard that 'Princess Kate' made some racist comments to Meghan. RandySF Mar 2021 #11

Meghan totally did not say that in this interview, only said the story about her making Kate cry UTUSN Mar 2021 #17

She didn't throw Harry under the bus. She said hurtful things were said to Harry... brush Mar 2021 #108

They pulled his security superpatriotman Mar 2021 #13

It seemed to coincide with the airing of the interview IIRC. nt live love laugh Mar 2021 #14

Nope superpatriotman Mar 2021 #19

Thanks for the correction. live love laugh Mar 2021 #44

This message was self-deleted by its author live love laugh Mar 2021 #66

That's a hard fact that's hard to understand. Sure, he could Hortensis Mar 2021 #15

Meanwhile Andrew the pedophile goes about his white privilege... HipChick Mar 2021 #22

It all has to do with -- you guessed it -- money! luvtheGWN Mar 2021 #87

It has to have been either Phillip, Charles, avebury Mar 2021 #20

No, it was Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, an unapologetic racist. speak easy Mar 2021 #21

Prince Philip Mary in S. Carolina Mar 2021 #24

Philip had Nazi connections. He is an UNAPOLOGETIC racist. speak easy Mar 2021 #27

Philip was a war hero for the Allies obamanut2012 Mar 2021 #133

Perhaps I should have said Philip had family connections to Nazis. speak easy Mar 2021 #143

My bet is on Charles, who stands to be king soon, milestogo Mar 2021 #26

Philip. Duke of Edinburgh. Famously racist. speak easy Mar 2021 #29

They are not even British DenaliDemocrat Mar 2021 #65

Piffle.The royal families of Europe have been marrying each other for centuries as part of strategic Hekate Mar 2021 #128

Excess princes and Mountbatten. :) Fun to read. Hortensis Mar 2021 #130

I doubt Phillip knows much of anything going on anymore, he's almost 100. BusyBeingBest Mar 2021 #35

it is all the fault of Charles. remember how horrible he was to Diana. He is a monster. Trueblue1968 Mar 2021 #93

Interesting,,, fascinating,,,, shocking,,,,, KarenS Mar 2021 #25

The tabloids are not Meghan and Harry-friendly superpatriotman Mar 2021 #30

The Tabloids....Rupert Murchoch Mary in S. Carolina Mar 2021 #81

Sorry Spelling Mary in S. Carolina Mar 2021 #82

Sorry, but if these two whiners want to cut Deminpenn Mar 2021 #31

why should they have to "go away"??? CatWoman Mar 2021 #33

For two people who claim to want privacy, Deminpenn Mar 2021 #38

that's a long way from you saying they should just "go away" CatWoman Mar 2021 #41

A woman suffering prolonged suicidal ideation is a whiner? speak easy Mar 2021 #34

Thank you.. that's Exactly what it does. Cha Mar 2021 #112

Go away because she is bi-racial??? Mary in S. Carolina Mar 2021 #37

No, go away because they can't stop themselves Deminpenn Mar 2021 #40

Like Mary Trump for example? speak easy Mar 2021 #42

seems to me they didn't start the fire CatWoman Mar 2021 #43

If you were paying attention... MicaelS Mar 2021 #39

IIRC, Harry was still getting a royal stipend, Deminpenn Mar 2021 #47

Obviously you care what people give "hoot" about. MicaelS Mar 2021 #49

I'm not a royal watcher, but I do care about this human story. summer_in_TX Mar 2021 #61

Wow. What compassion. Harry couldn't help what family he was born into, or, for that matter, catbyte Mar 2021 #64

There is a great scene in the movie The Queen Hamlette Mar 2021 #86

But she wasn't "way down the line" Retrograde Mar 2021 #98

I don't think she could abdicate Hamlette Mar 2021 #106

Other monarchs have done it Retrograde Mar 2021 #110

sorry Hamlette Mar 2021 #114

He never said "way down the line," since it isn't true obamanut2012 Mar 2021 #135

Your ignorance is showing. They get no stipend and Harry doesn't even get security. pnwmom Mar 2021 #101

It was clear they were treating her like shit from the get-go. BusyBeingBest Mar 2021 #32

Very predictable. So why would anyone wnylib Mar 2021 #59

Racist, hateful & turned against their own. I hope they have their own security Budi Mar 2021 #36

Just think.. if they had chosen love Cha Mar 2021 #113

Awww! 💕💖 I'm so glad they met each other. Really! Budi Mar 2021 #121

Yeah, after seeing her on Suits for all Cha Mar 2021 #154

Thank you for posting Nictuku Mar 2021 #48

Good for them both luv2fly Mar 2021 #50

These are the Royals that matter. Note that it doesn't Include Harry and Archie, much less Meghan Klaralven Mar 2021 #51

i believe the security issue, and why harry has hired security, is due to death threats orleans Mar 2021 #58

It's probably all about money Klaralven Mar 2021 #131

We have your back Mary in S. Carolina Mar 2021 #55

+1 Alex4Martinez Mar 2021 #57

I was surprised that frogmarch Mar 2021 #56

Interesting. If Harry had married a woman who wnylib Mar 2021 #76

True. treestar Mar 2021 #146

I hate monarchy IbogaProject Mar 2021 #60

Welcome to our DU family. niyad Mar 2021 #75

agree, but the loss of family. friendship, companionship etc must have been hard. Hamlette Mar 2021 #85

It's going to rock the UK Joinfortmill Mar 2021 #67

This message was self-deleted by its author Joinfortmill Mar 2021 #68

I feel kind of badly for her. She didn't fully appreciate what she was buying into. BobTheSubgenius Mar 2021 #69

I'm not an expert, but I understand that Harry had a lot more contact with the Spencers catbyte Mar 2021 #72

The Windsors are just a bunch of Germans Ziggysmom Mar 2021 #70

You call them 'just a bunch of Germans' like that is something horrible. Pongo Mar 2021 #132

They conveniently changed their family name to sound British and distance themselves from Ziggysmom Mar 2021 #142

Not just German BuddhaGirl Mar 2021 #139

I just read the NYT review that popped up. Ye gods. Hekate Mar 2021 #73

I believe Meghan and Harry. Spazito Mar 2021 #74

OOO WEE whole lot of meanness coming out on DU tonight! Cozmo Mar 2021 #77

What was he saying about the trip to Australia? Hamlette Mar 2021 #91

He implied that Meghan's success in Australia caused repercussions with The Institution. pnwmom Mar 2021 #104

I felt sorry for him when they compared it to Diana's trip. Hamlette Mar 2021 #107

It must have been very painful for him to find himself reliving an experience like that. pnwmom Mar 2021 #125

Seems there was jealousy that Meghan pulled it off so well. brush Mar 2021 #116

You'd think they (the firm) would want it to have gone well. eShirl Mar 2021 #149

Yes. It's their loss. Harry even mention that, since 70%... brush Mar 2021 #151

I didn't think some of what Meghan said sounded believable. hamsterjill Mar 2021 #92

I agree Hamlette Mar 2021 #96

Watched the whole thing. My gut feeling is Charles is the bad guy, and Mr.Bill Mar 2021 #109

It was definitely eye opening!! beaglelover Mar 2021 #118

Wonder if.. Maxheader Mar 2021 #134

According to Oprah on CBS Morning, Harry told her that it was not avebury Mar 2021 #137

Thanks for that report, avebury Cha Mar 2021 #155

She and Harry are intelligent people. How did they not consider this would happen Autumn Mar 2021 #148

... LexVegas Mar 2021 #150

Do you have a link to the entire interview? I only find excerpts. Thanks. Amaryllis Mar 2021 #152

This is one of the few cases where being a Republican is the right thing to do. Dawson Leery Mar 2021 #153

I didn't watch it. . . . And I very seriously doubt I will. BigDemVoter Mar 2021 #156

Its a soap opera, and a villain was needed, so, Markle The Outsider is the tabloid target Shanti Shanti Shanti Mar 2021 #157

Riveting Sunsky Mar 2021 #158

K & R Thank You! Budi Mar 2021 #159