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Moostache

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13. The USA hit "peak Capitalism" in 2007-2008...
Mon Mar 22, 2021, 03:52 PM
Mar 2021

Since the banking sector nearly collapsed the world economy into oblivion and killed the careers and financial futures of MILLIONS of Americans (who NEVER recovered from THAT calamity before getting broadsided by COVID-19 and inept governance).

Capitalism only works while society holds the reins of regulation and taxation over the heads of the corporations. Once it is allowed off the chain to run amok, capitalism is a Darwinian morality play. Bribes, threats, collusion, monopolies, externalities, kick-backs...and that is before you even bother to get creative...they all are used to maximize the almighty profit and denigrate the inputs to the system (human labor, natural resources, community exploitation, etc.).

Capitalism without ardent, enforced state regulation to maintain a level field is hand-to-hand combat, except those with more to start off or faster acquisition strategies use their every advantage to rig the system and ensure there is no real competition, just an illusion of it and a game that the winner takes it all (regardless of fairness, equity or the status of the communities, cities, states or nations hosting these vampires. They suck everything dry, then move on.

Profiting off of human misery, sickness, frailty and disease is a hideous thing to do...yet TRILLIONS of dollars are associated with the practice in America, where the largest single chunk of the total economy is healthcare - and NOT improving or even matching service levels and successes in other nations.

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We could Japan. [View all] 634-5789 Mar 2021 OP
I once Japanned a wooden box. MineralMan Mar 2021 #1
I once explained to a young clerk in the hardware store what "Japan Dryer" was. EarnestPutz Mar 2021 #35
I never thought of Japan as a verb. calimary Mar 2021 #41
I was familiar with Mineral man's use of "japan" as a verb, though I've never done it - soldierant Mar 2021 #49
And then... jcgoldie Mar 2021 #2
We could Japan a lot of things, including gun control, if we could stop industry/corporations Dustlawyer Mar 2021 #52
This message was self-deleted by its author Baked Potato Mar 2021 #3
Kick dalton99a Mar 2021 #4
And those prices were seven and eight years ago. James48 Mar 2021 #6
Hell, I'd be okay if we Franced. Or Netherlanded. Or effing AnywhereButHered. n/t TygrBright Mar 2021 #11
You know what bugs me about seeing these graphs? PatrickforB Mar 2021 #50
Great discussion. The US is built on capitalism (making money), not socialism (common good) erronis Mar 2021 #5
The USA hit "peak Capitalism" in 2007-2008... Moostache Mar 2021 #13
" Profiting off of human misery, sickness, frailty and disease is a hideous thing to do...." HUAJIAO Mar 2021 #23
Capitalism is like a nuclear reactor: very powerful, but requires regulation... Beartracks Mar 2021 #40
Nice summary cynical_idealist Mar 2021 #56
You are so right. luvtheGWN Mar 2021 #53
We could Canada, too kcr Mar 2021 #7
I prefer the Ontario single payor model. roamer65 Mar 2021 #20
Japan is like VA for all IronLionZion Mar 2021 #8
I just kept going back and looking at it, amazed. Surgery 10 times higher than civilized countries!! rickyhall Mar 2021 #9
those Ferraris don't buy themselves Celerity Mar 2021 #19
Like many things in Japan, healthcare has a hidden side. Martin68 Mar 2021 #10
We talking about 50k - 100k dollar "gifts" or the 500 - 750 dollar gifts? thx in advance uponit7771 Mar 2021 #12
Gifts in the range of 200 to 500 dollars each for many doctors and nurses. I did not appreciate what Martin68 Mar 2021 #15
What was the range in Japan? thx in advance uponit7771 Mar 2021 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Hiawatha Pete Mar 2021 #28
Please don't misunderstand me. I completely support universal national health in insurance. Martin68 Mar 2021 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author Hiawatha Pete Mar 2021 #30
Sounds like an illegal bribe. There is no requirement. miyazaki Mar 2021 #31
That's VERY misleading metalbot Mar 2021 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author Hiawatha Pete Mar 2021 #38
So True tiptonic Mar 2021 #14
from a white person's perpective, one may say greed has taken over Kaleva Mar 2021 #16
And they would be 100% right, greed, cruelty, inhumane treatment of other human beings. HUAJIAO Mar 2021 #25
We may be overlooking a huge difference in doing Japan. joetheman Mar 2021 #17
Very true. Pinback Mar 2021 #54
Yea but we're not anything like Japan, in population size and Japan has almost zero immigration. Jetheels Mar 2021 #21
Welcome to DU orangecrush Mar 2021 #22
I'm guessing racism. Duppers Mar 2021 #37
Good guess. orangecrush Mar 2021 #42
He could also mean diet Polybius Mar 2021 #45
I don't know what the impact of immigration is on healthcare. There's different opinions. Jetheels Mar 2021 #46
How many people live in Japan? ZZenith Mar 2021 #33
IIRC, Japan is about the size of California Wednesdays Mar 2021 #51
You recall correctly. ZZenith Mar 2021 #55
We're headed that direction. But we're huge, we contain multitudes, Hortensis Mar 2021 #24
We should Japan like a boss! dchill Mar 2021 #26
"Japanese costs are half of USA." I like to get a rough gauge by comparing registered nurse salaries Hoyt Mar 2021 #27
Mochiron! YoshidaYui Mar 2021 #32
This x 1000 Ferrets are Cool Mar 2021 #34
k&r n/t area51 Mar 2021 #39
It's likely their life expectancy has more to do with genes and lifestyle than heathcare. progressoid Mar 2021 #43
Having grown up in UK with its National Health System dickthegrouch Mar 2021 #44
I just watched a video presentation about US health care, and it's even worse than I thought. BobTheSubgenius Mar 2021 #47
Government run health system. Aussie105 Mar 2021 #48
Its painful to watch the US stumble so badly with healthcare LiberalLovinLug Mar 2021 #58
Or we could proofread and grammar. nt littlemissmartypants Mar 2021 #57
Having been there personally, and knowing many japanese families, I can tell you lindysalsagal Mar 2021 #59
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