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ancianita

(43,166 posts)
60. so the way I think it through is
Mon Mar 22, 2021, 06:26 PM
Mar 2021

Short of crime and 60-vote impeachment, public voting is how we fire people that don't do the job for us.

What's the other way to do it? Recalls? Depends on the state. Do AZ and WV have those laws?

If 100% of auditing is not that hard, then who would do an audit of both parties, and what would be audited?
Who and how would the dark money get audited?

Is there law anywhere that says this can be done? Say, campaign finance law?

I've never heard of this country as run by stockholders... even stockholders can't just up and call a board meeting to fire people. Gov and business are just different.

I feel you and am frustrated, too. And you must know that Schumer and Clyburn are inside out over this. But demands, threats and denial are what the other side do; our side does respect, patience and fair play and phone calls.

Here are their phone numbers. Give 'em hell. Maybe get back and say how it went.

Sinema DC (202) 224-4521; in AZ (602) 598-7327
Manchin DC 202-224-3954 , 202-228-0002
WV Fairmont: 304-368-0567, 304-368-0198
WV Eastern Panhandle: 304-264-4626, 304-262-3039
WV Charleson: 304-342-5855, 304-343-7144

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Cannot figure out who she thinks she's appealing to mcar Mar 2021 #1
Likely the donors. aocommunalpunch Mar 2021 #5
Obviously not the same donors as Kelly mcar Mar 2021 #26
Sinema is a Ghost NonPC Mar 2021 #43
I have no doubt that she could flip, BUT the QMAGAts will not Celerity Mar 2021 #53
Doubt she would survive a Republican primary. temporary311 Mar 2021 #65
Exactly.. that was always Cha Mar 2021 #59
Right? Are her donors really that different? mcar Mar 2021 #61
Obviously not voters. So who does she serve? Irish_Dem Mar 2021 #68
That's the question, isn't it? mcar Mar 2021 #69
Asking the following question usually gives some answers: Irish_Dem Mar 2021 #71
Yes. mcar Mar 2021 #72
More proof that centrist triangulating does not work wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #2
Exactly USAFRetired_Liberal Mar 2021 #4
More proof that centrist triangulating means appealing to big donors not voters. hedda_foil Mar 2021 #7
If she is a centrist WA-03 Democrat Mar 2021 #14
Good wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #18
Making the blind see is not a power WA-03 Democrat Mar 2021 #23
We know who are the obstructionists in of the Democratic majority wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #27
Sorry I am getting in your way of trashing Democrats WA-03 Democrat Mar 2021 #30
I repeat, this is not the time to be precious about applying pressure wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #42
Ten bucks says you fail to see the irony in your having expressed that... LanternWaste Mar 2021 #37
What are you talking about? wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #44
+1000 smirkymonkey Mar 2021 #64
Her stunt will remain in the minds of all who follow politics reasonably closely. hlthe2b Mar 2021 #3
Should she get a primary challenger? Qutzupalotl Mar 2021 #6
She should absolutely be primaried. temporary311 Mar 2021 #9
2024 is a long way from now AZProgressive Mar 2021 #10
I hate when senators act like Tree Lady Mar 2021 #28
AZ's minimum wage is $12.15, and she held on that in part based on AZ polls. Hortensis Mar 2021 #8
More people in Arizona voted for a minimum wage increase than they voted for Sinema AZProgressive Mar 2021 #11
Ultimately, the vote never should have come up AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2021 #12
I'm more upset at Sinema than I am with Sanders AZProgressive Mar 2021 #17
They got their minimum wage increase. This is now. Hortensis Mar 2021 #15
I did Day Labor in Arizona when the minimum wage was a lot lower AZProgressive Mar 2021 #19
So, how do you feel about Sanders scuttling the national MW increase? Hortensis Mar 2021 #25
They did good adding as much as possible in the initial bill AZProgressive Mar 2021 #29
We've had progressive government since inception, and Democrats are Hortensis Mar 2021 #32
THIS is progressivism in action: Hortensis Mar 2021 #39
It doesn't matter what it was increased to - the Parliamentarian said no to reconciliation AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2021 #20
Her statement may have been clear kcr Mar 2021 #33
I agree it has cost her AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2021 #34
I'm not a big Bernie fan kcr Mar 2021 #36
Yeah - that's really where she fucked up AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2021 #38
I have two problems with her dsc Mar 2021 #40
What is your evidence that "no Hispanic or native American will be able to vote" former9thward Mar 2021 #56
FYI. The proposed bill started at 11.00/hr and gradually increased over 5 years. vsrazdem Mar 2021 #48
Yes. Slow, but AZ's progressives did what they had to to make it HAPPEN Hortensis Mar 2021 #52
Arizona voted for it as a ballot measure AZProgressive Mar 2021 #54
I'm from California originally, where the political parties are heavily Hortensis Mar 2021 #57
Elections in states like Arizona are all about base turnout USAFRetired_Liberal Mar 2021 #13
Sinema didn't win by activating the base AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2021 #16
Mark Kelly won by a wider margin wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #21
Was he left of Sinema? AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2021 #22
At this point, Kelly is clearly to the left of Sinema wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #41
Yes, there's no doubt at all Kelly's left of Sinema. He's been in too short Hortensis Mar 2021 #67
Do you have a link to those Arizona polls about the minimum wage? Kalistos Mar 2021 #31
There were statements when the state voters passed the increase AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2021 #35
You don't need any polls. The voters passed a minumum wage vsrazdem Mar 2021 #49
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2021 #70
"little blue districts" elected 50 senators and a president. quakerboy Mar 2021 #66
Thumb down right back at her Kalistos Mar 2021 #24
Might be the wrong finger. (n/m) BradAllison Mar 2021 #45
left ,right, middle. monkeyman1 Mar 2021 #46
hm... you sound pissed off ancianita Mar 2021 #55
you right monkeyman1 Mar 2021 #58
so the way I think it through is ancianita Mar 2021 #60
thank's needed that . monkeyman1 Mar 2021 #62
hey ancianita Mar 2021 #63
A lot of us AZ Dems did not find it funny at all. StevenJoseph Mar 2021 #47
Right there with you, and I let her office know that. vsrazdem Mar 2021 #50
This message was self-deleted by its author irisblue Mar 2021 #51
She sucks budkin Mar 2021 #73
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