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50. Lithium Fires Can Not Be Extinguished With Water

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 05:20 PM

Apr 2021

The lithium reacts with water, violently, to form lithium hydroxide and hydrogen gas.
Deluging with water could be ok, but insufficient excess of water makes it much worse.
There's already a fire, everything is hot, and we're releasing hydrogen.
Plenty of things could go wrong.
But, halon or an inert powder could be used.
Firefighters will just start having to carry class D equipment.

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Still Want an EV? Watch this: [View all] MineralMan Apr 2021 OP

Search "car fires" on YouTube! Nt USALiberal Apr 2021 #1

such ridiculous bullshit Voltaire2 Apr 2021 #2

I see 1-2 burned automobiles in a typical year just driving around BornADemocrat Apr 2021 #26

Exactly. I don't understand the EV hatred around here. tinrobot Apr 2021 #39

This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Apr 2021 #64

What? I've never seen EV hatred or agenda here, and I imagine we all Hortensis Apr 2021 #66

DU search works to show this, and there are other posters on this thread saying the same thing Celerity Apr 2021 #68

So, he's interested in the topic. Since you seem very invested, Hortensis Apr 2021 #70

I absolutely disagree with your framing of it. I am simply stating a fact about their repetitive Celerity Apr 2021 #74

Well, Yes, I'm interested in the technology. MineralMan Apr 2021 #83

Heavens! So you mean that benefits have costs and that Hortensis Apr 2021 #87

wow Voltaire2 Apr 2021 #88

DU has a healthy helping of luddites. Happy Hoosier Apr 2021 #86

Well, I haven't seen many. What I see is a fair number of Hortensis Apr 2021 #89

We disagree here a bit... Happy Hoosier Apr 2021 #91

I believe you, but I haven't read those threads and Hortensis Apr 2021 #93

+1 honest.abe Apr 2021 #48

I wonder indigoth Apr 2021 #3

It is a bunch. Older vehicles do catch fire for sure. machoneman Apr 2021 #8

170,000 a year, approximately. Voltaire2 Apr 2021 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author machoneman Apr 2021 #9

Never rains in So Cal... Claire Oh Nette Apr 2021 #15

I had an old saab 96 Voltaire2 Apr 2021 #80

ooh...ooh...let me post the video of my husband's Nissan catching fire on the freeway Beaverhausen Apr 2021 #4

Small Halon extinguisher setup in the battery compartment. haele Apr 2021 #5

Halon is harmful to the atmosphere, isn't it? MichMan Apr 2021 #22

Yes, But... ProfessorGAC Apr 2021 #49

I didn't find it very persuasive mahina Apr 2021 #6

My understanding is hurl Apr 2021 #27

Lithium Fires Can Not Be Extinguished With Water ProfessorGAC Apr 2021 #50

Less greenhouse gas emissions and lowers population. A win-win. Kaleva Apr 2021 #7

This is not even remotely true in many cases. NNadir Apr 2021 #79

My Fuji bicycle hasn't burst into flames even once gratuitous Apr 2021 #10

do you have a battery in your light? Voltaire2 Apr 2021 #28

Sorry, not buying into this anti EV hype. beaglelover Apr 2021 #11

Every vehicle is hazardous. maxsolomon Apr 2021 #12

We should ban them! FoxNewsSucks Apr 2021 #13

Lol I'm so scared now I will never ever consider one 😱 luckone Apr 2021 #14

Well, at least its not a Pinto.... Xolodno Apr 2021 #16

Energy sources can self-destruct and release all the stored energy at once Shermann Apr 2021 #17

Meh, these kinds of fires are pretty rare. backscatter712 Apr 2021 #18

We not only wanted one, we have one. A Tesla Model S. It runs like a top. CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2021 #19

Kind of odd, isn't it... madinmaryland Apr 2021 #25

And yet, here I am. MineralMan Apr 2021 #33

It seems we'd need some comparative statistics here Silent3 Apr 2021 #42

You're correct, but no sense arguing with him. tinrobot Apr 2021 #45

I wasn't trying to change minds, or take a particular position Silent3 Apr 2021 #46

This is silly. I am disappointed. Happy Hoosier Apr 2021 #43

Sorry, I like a lot of what you post but I disagree with you BIG TIME on this one. Tommymac Apr 2021 #75

The only thing crazier would be driving around with 15 gallons of gasoline under your butt. nt NutmegYankee Apr 2021 #21

Did your account get hacked? Blue_Adept Apr 2021 #23

You are apparently not reading all of my posts. MineralMan Apr 2021 #34

This message was self-deleted by its author Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2021 #58

Scary music + 0 facts equals a weak argument Bonn1997 Apr 2021 #24

Only a brave person questions the EV fantasy. It's not about fires however; it's about... NNadir Apr 2021 #29

That, too. MineralMan Apr 2021 #30

I mean I could post a compilation video of $150k + exotic cars catching fire too... blugbox Apr 2021 #31

Oh, it's you (..,.) LanternWaste Apr 2021 #32

Yes, it is. MineralMan Apr 2021 #36

Thats some real fine propaganda right there! CrackityJones75 Apr 2021 #35

There is a lot of propaganda going around. MineralMan Apr 2021 #37

Is Elon Musk the only EV maker? CrackityJones75 Apr 2021 #38

Hahahaha. But you chose this piece of propaganda. progressoid Apr 2021 #41

I respect you but this is bullshit. Happy Hoosier Apr 2021 #40

Electric/Hybrid vehicles Mr.Bill Apr 2021 #44

I've owned EVs for 11 years and counting. None have caught fire. tinrobot Apr 2021 #47

Yeah, none my many cars have, either. MineralMan Apr 2021 #52

Great. We've established that most cars don't blow up. tinrobot Apr 2021 #57

Because this guy is a EV Luddite and posts anything he can Liberal In Texas Apr 2021 #61

+1 Celerity Apr 2021 #65

Based on his comments about EV, you could call him an alien invader Hortensis Apr 2021 #90

This is the 3rd or 4th anti-EV post I've seen from you in the last 6 months NickB79 Apr 2021 #51

This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Apr 2021 #63

Once watched a six digit Ferrari burn to the ground in Dubai... Car fires are a thing, even more so JCMach1 Apr 2021 #53

It would be interesting to see what percentage of each type MineralMan Apr 2021 #54

5 incidents for Bolts... for comparison 1 of every 400 Pontiac Fiero's caught fire JCMach1 Apr 2021 #55

My dream vehicle tirebiter Apr 2021 #56

Here's a Wikipedia page on the topic MerryHolidays Apr 2021 #59

And here is the excerpt from the nhtsa Voltaire2 Apr 2021 #60

Hybrids have gas in them. I'm assuming this quote refers only to pure EVs? nt MerryHolidays Apr 2021 #67

the wiki page failed to make a distinction, the NHTSA report Voltaire2 Apr 2021 #72

it's like the Ford Pinto of the 21st century Shellback Squid Apr 2021 #62

There is no comparison. Liberal In Texas Apr 2021 #71

hey! all you evs get off my lawn! Voltaire2 Apr 2021 #81

Oh look at this, Kia Souls ... Liberal In Texas Apr 2021 #69

We own a Chevy Bolt...no complaints! 634-5789 Apr 2021 #73

My gas guzzler caught on fire about 5yrs sgo Raine Apr 2021 #76

Duly noted. About to jump in my Model Y and enjoy yet another incredible ride...to work Mr. Ected Apr 2021 #77

Still want a house? Watch This! hatrack Apr 2021 #78

OMFG Voltaire2 Apr 2021 #82

Thank goodness I still live in a cave. tinrobot Apr 2021 #84

What is even the purpose of this thread? Happy Hoosier Apr 2021 #85

I don't know the PLANNED purpose BlueSpot Apr 2021 #92