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kentuck

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123. Everyone makes really excellent points.

Sat Apr 10, 2021, 10:07 PM

Apr 2021

But, my questions are:

Do you think Trump will be the nominee of the Republicans in 2024?

Do you think he would defeat Biden or Harris?

He might not be the nominee and, if he was, he might not win?

But, how much more division and turmoil can our country take?

Would we make it thru another Trump term without violence? Or another crisis equal to or similar to the pandemic we have all suffered thru? There will be nothing smooth or predictable with another Trump presidency.

In my opinion, it would be worthwhile to keep him busy with something other than the "politics" of running for the presidency again.

Whether or not he was found "not guilty" on all the charges against him, the process could possibly take us thru the next electoral cycle? If charges are made, he would have to respond.

There will come a time when the evidence is so blatant that there may be no other option but to charge him. What happens then?

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Is the Attorney General putting off the inevitable? [View all] kentuck Apr 2021 OP

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Agree. kentuck Apr 2021 #4

And the "our only remedy is the vote" solution is in jeopardy if GOP voter suppression efforts work. sop Apr 2021 #6

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Trump's plan is to hide behind the cover of the Republican Party... kentuck Apr 2021 #17

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Let Us Not Forget That "the Only Remedy" Refrain The Roux Comes First Apr 2021 #133

Good to have you back! niyad Apr 2021 #30

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NO..."TIME PASSING" may indicate that evidence is being... "COLLECTED" Stuart G Apr 2021 #86

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Sorry, after Fitzmas and Mueller, I have no faith in the justice system reigning in a president DSandra Apr 2021 #146

The power is with the people, not the Justice Department. kentuck Apr 2021 #147

Yes but there are two justice systems in this country DSandra Apr 2021 #148

I do not disagree with you. kentuck Apr 2021 #149

I just hope the Dems don't let it go like they have in the past and let the repugs get away with it. rickyhall Apr 2021 #2

false narrative. repeated far too often stopdiggin Apr 2021 #158

Before the other guy, before Obama... rickyhall Apr 2021 #161

okie dokie. stopdiggin Apr 2021 #171

The only thing I can think is they are letting him think he's gotten away with it... Hugin Apr 2021 #3

He should have to defend himself. kentuck Apr 2021 #5

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That is why I was disappointed with the impeachment trial... Hugin Apr 2021 #8

The is a huge reason not to charge him speak easy Apr 2021 #19

Is it worse to charge him and let public opinion find him guilty...? kentuck Apr 2021 #28

There is no point in charging him period. It will put all the attention back on Trump Demsrule86 Apr 2021 #45

An acquittal on incitement to insurrection would not harm his changes. speak easy Apr 2021 #46

I am in full agreement with all of this. ShazzieB Apr 2021 #136

For some here, feel-good political theatre is better than actual results nt AZSkiffyGeek Apr 2021 #162

Precisely SE DENVERPOPS Apr 2021 #78

'What are the chances of seating a jury that doesn't have at least one Trumper'? speak easy Apr 2021 #90

WASF........... DENVERPOPS Apr 2021 #122

Absolutely! PortTack Apr 2021 #118

Maybe they are being very thorough in wnylib Apr 2021 #20

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I see no way Trump get tried or convicted for the insurrection. Demsrule86 Apr 2021 #47

I think it's possible if they can get wnylib Apr 2021 #56

Whst is the evidence that they have right now wnylib Apr 2021 #52

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Nice cop out for an unsubstantiated claim. wnylib Apr 2021 #58

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I see a whole lot of the status quo happening. Hugin Apr 2021 #74

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... Hugin Apr 2021 #99

We don't know the ......."State of New York Evidence"....DO WE? Stuart G Apr 2021 #89

The father, the CFO wiesselburg has been subpoenaed to appear b4 a grand jury PortTack Apr 2021 #115

I wonder how much he will wnylib Apr 2021 #126

I trust that Merrick Garland is doing the right thing!! PortTack Apr 2021 #10

A lot of people trusted Mueller to do the right thing and he totally dropped the ball. nt SunSeeker Apr 2021 #12

Totally different people. wnylib Apr 2021 #21

Hope so. nt SunSeeker Apr 2021 #105

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The one film clip..... MyOwnPeace Apr 2021 #69

I am not giving up hope. But faith needs to be earned. nt SunSeeker Apr 2021 #108

Amen. 58Sunliner Apr 2021 #96

Mueller was trying desperately to do the right thing and was ham strung by dotard and barr PortTack Apr 2021 #97

They didn't muzzle Mueller. He could still speak. SunSeeker Apr 2021 #104

Disagree..barr released a highly redacted version of the report which I'm sure you recall completely PortTack Apr 2021 #117

He should have demanded the testimony of Trump. He should have followed the money. SunSeeker Apr 2021 #121

Talking about before Barrs lies to the country, Mueller could have told people uponit7771 Apr 2021 #130

The right thing would have been to tell Congress that he was being hamstrung uponit7771 Apr 2021 #129

+1 uponit7771 Apr 2021 #128

Look for charges out of NY state. The Manhattan DA and the state AG. brush Apr 2021 #11

We've been waiting a long, long time. summer_in_TX Apr 2021 #13

I doubt that NY will do anything... kentuck Apr 2021 #14

Real New Yorkers have been disgusted with trump for years. He's not liked. brush Apr 2021 #23

So you're claiming that the New York Attorney General is corrupt? brooklynite Apr 2021 #25

Agree...why would anyone say that?! PortTack Apr 2021 #98

Not statewide, not in the Federal jurisdiction district, wnylib Apr 2021 #26

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Do what all the time? I was talking wnylib Apr 2021 #62

Post removed Post removed Apr 2021 #67

LOLOLOLOL. A TV analyst has inside info wnylib Apr 2021 #93

"I've done my research - here are some YouTube videos" nt AZSkiffyGeek Apr 2021 #163

They finally got his taxes a couple of months ago and Michael Cohen has been... brush Apr 2021 #15

I hope! (But will refrain from holding my breath.) summer_in_TX Apr 2021 #16

Sometimes it is hard to distinguish... kentuck Apr 2021 #18

I doubt that the investigation has ended...If there is some evidence,, Stuart G Apr 2021 #51

Trump did not hire a new attorney, the Trump business organization did. former9thward Apr 2021 #27

You're misiformed about his taxes. And if you think the turmp organization... brush Apr 2021 #29

So you are saying he has not filed tax returns with the state of NY? former9thward Apr 2021 #124

Is there a comprehension problem? He's been saying for years he's getting audited... brush Apr 2021 #125

The State does not need his permission to look at his returns. former9thward Apr 2021 #131

You have no idea. It's a matter of privacy. The state nor the feds can release... brush Apr 2021 #160

OMG former9thward Apr 2021 #167

You keep missing the points. Where have you been for the last four years? brush Apr 2021 #169

He is paying...he lost the election. Demsrule86 Apr 2021 #48

Yes, the only way to truly nail his sorry azz is to have the NYS AG file charges. I only wonder: machoneman Apr 2021 #155

Don't think feds will be filing charges against trump. Hope I'm wrong, but they'd never get a Hoyt Apr 2021 #22

The feds don't have to file charges...New York State will file charges...and.... Stuart G Apr 2021 #53

At best, they'll collect some taxes. Not happy about that, but it's likely the case. Hoyt Apr 2021 #57

I would disagree, but we will all find out after some time...one way or another.. Stuart G Apr 2021 #59

Michael Cohen went to prison for Trump's crimes. So why would you assume pnwmom Apr 2021 #63

If Micheal Cohen testifies against Trump, who will the jury believe? Cohen or Trump? Stuart G Apr 2021 #68

But now there will be new evidence -- among other things, pnwmom Apr 2021 #114

Because all but impossible to impanel a jury that won't hang. Plus, don't think Biden is interested Hoyt Apr 2021 #83

Ask any attorney hung juries are rare PortTack Apr 2021 #100

Stats mean nothing when any charges will be viewed as political. Hoyt Apr 2021 #106

The legal filings against Cohen cited an unindicted co-conspirator, pnwmom Apr 2021 #116

Criminal indictments are not based on "we all know he did it" assertions... brooklynite Apr 2021 #24

Blogosphere? Elessar Zappa Apr 2021 #36

+1000 Knowing someone did it and proving it beyond a reasonable doubt are two different Demsrule86 Apr 2021 #50

Thank you. You are braver than me. I decided not to type it. GulfCoast66 Apr 2021 #101

Thank you! PortTack Apr 2021 #120

And Fed prosecutions have a 98% conviction rate grantcart Apr 2021 #132

I believe they cannot rush to indict him, they must have solid cases Escurumbele Apr 2021 #32

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If you were NY State Atty General..what would you do?:Rush to indict?, or create totally solid case? Stuart G Apr 2021 #77

Exactly..every time I see a true news worthy piece about this they talk about the hundreds of PortTack Apr 2021 #102

Swift justice only comes for the middle and lower class folks Beachnutt Apr 2021 #34

Garland was confirmed MARCH 10, and WE are NOT "creating a crisis." Hortensis Apr 2021 #35

I was SURE we had seen the last of this POS. BobTheSubgenius Apr 2021 #37

He's NEVER Going To Be Held Accountable SoCalDavidS Apr 2021 #38

...I totally disagree. Trump will be held accountable..by New York State.. Stuart G Apr 2021 #55

I Do Not Share Your Optimism SoCalDavidS Apr 2021 #61

Totally with you on this one. dhol82 Apr 2021 #71

I've got other fears. cab67 Apr 2021 #39

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You got it..That is it: "Charge and Bring To Trial" again and again.. Stuart G Apr 2021 #60

I used to think that, an attorney who posts here frequently said that would be very difficult if PortTack Apr 2021 #112

people don't realize that this driving donny bats shit crazy! has no clue what he is going get hit w monkeyman1 Apr 2021 #44

Donnie Boy...always claims he is "innocent." NY Atty General will prove, "beyond doubt" that Stuart G Apr 2021 #66

bingo !!!! we have a winner !! good one. monkeyman1 Apr 2021 #76

I am thinking that Trump believed he was all powerful Dan Apr 2021 #65

The New York Atty General .....will silently redition Trump's ass to prison, NY State Prison! Stuart G Apr 2021 #80

They need an ironclad case against Trump jmowreader Apr 2021 #70

1st off, paleotn Apr 2021 #72

love it ! very good . monkeyman1 Apr 2021 #87

When it comes to presidents, the proverbial page is usually turned the minute they leave peppertree Apr 2021 #73

The Attorney General has no plans to charge him with anything. Kablooie Apr 2021 #75

don't ! monkeyman1 Apr 2021 #85

I hope you're right but I still don't expect any Federal charges to be forthcoming. Kablooie Apr 2021 #127

What's the rush? Catch the small fish, get the bigger ones when conviction is certain Fiendish Thingy Apr 2021 #81

agreed - I just posted similar below NewJeffCT Apr 2021 #139

Totally disagree with the entire premise of this thread. Jon King Apr 2021 #82

Thank you!! PortTack Apr 2021 #103

Agreed. He can't even get ratings on Newsmax. marmar Apr 2021 #109

Please see posts 55 and 66...New York Atty General will get him.. Stuart G Apr 2021 #84

Merrick Garland is very careful Warpy Apr 2021 #91

I Agree DallasNE Apr 2021 #92

This may be helpful (link) Beachnutt Apr 2021 #94

I think he knows what he's doing. George II Apr 2021 #95

It makes DOJ look weak. Sorry, but it does. With little deterrent, they will plan more events. Evolve Dammit Apr 2021 #107

I think. Snackshack Apr 2021 #110

I know justice is not necessarily swift in this country, but it's already been too long Rhiannon12866 Apr 2021 #111

For those who are keeping track ( current Trump prosecutions): Rhiannon12866 Apr 2021 #113

I got into some arguments about this with some leftists on FB the other day Mad_Machine76 Apr 2021 #119

Everyone makes really excellent points. kentuck Apr 2021 #123

NOTHING is going to hapen llashram Apr 2021 #134

I don't think that's how investigations work Generic Brad Apr 2021 #135

For the sake of healing the country.......... And notice... Hotler Apr 2021 #137

The guy has been in office for a month - give him an f-ing break NewJeffCT Apr 2021 #138

It took Gerald Nadler six months to get Barr under oath. Grasswire2 Apr 2021 #152

Justice lacks a Deputy and Associate AG because of repubs and Garland has been in for all of 30 days EleanorR Apr 2021 #140

Absolutely right. Once he declares he's running....he has: SayItLoud Apr 2021 #141

Everyone should read this article in the Mother Jones magazine : kentuck Apr 2021 #142

Trump could be President again. Tiger8 Apr 2021 #143

He would be a dictator - not a president. kentuck Apr 2021 #144

Exactly! It's pedal to the metal time Tiger8 Apr 2021 #156

Trump won't make it to 2024... he's really not well. nt. druidity33 Apr 2021 #166

CHARGE HIM !!! CHARGE HIM!!!!! #LockTrumpUpNow !!!! Trueblue1968 Apr 2021 #145

One possible reason they have not charged him.... kentuck Apr 2021 #150

agree -- tempus fugit Grasswire2 Apr 2021 #151

I'd like to know when "he thought his goose was cooked"? OldCicero Apr 2021 #153

He was like a recluse for a couple of months... kentuck Apr 2021 #154

I don't know how it works in other countries, but I've never seen anything so big... Silent3 Apr 2021 #157

There are a number of serious criminal investigations going on right now. They have far more chance Martin68 Apr 2021 #159

And as expected Meowmee Apr 2021 #164

FFS - He just started the job... n/t Lucinda Apr 2021 #165

.... CatWoman Apr 2021 #168

Fuckin A kentuck spanone Apr 2021 #170