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87. It appears you are here to disrupt...not have a frank discussion

Reply to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #51)

Thu Apr 15, 2021, 06:19 PM

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Adam Toledo Video Shows Chicago Police Shooting 13-Year-Old As He Raised His Hands [View all] WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 OP

Thanks. I was just checking to see if it was posted yet. hedda_foil Apr 2021 #1

😢 13 years old. His hands up. This is just fucked. n/t TDale313 Apr 2021 #2

"All you have to do is cooperate with police and you will be fine " luckone Apr 2021 #35

"Leaders have asked people to remain peaceful" gratuitous Apr 2021 #3

that's it for me for today... stillcool Apr 2021 #4

Oh gee, maybe he didn't mean to kill him. Officer sounds shocked 1!!1! He only fired once11!!1 Arazi Apr 2021 #5

May be. The suicide rate after officers have killed kids is pretty high. Hortensis Apr 2021 #6

I. Don't. Care. Arazi Apr 2021 #8

Perhaps at least you can understand how trumpist extremists feel then. Hortensis Apr 2021 #102

I don't understand your post. And if you won't watch the video why comment? Arazi Apr 2021 #108

delete... Stuart G Apr 2021 #90

Kick demmiblue Apr 2021 #7

Yep one of the tweet replies - They murdered that child for complying with police orders luckone Apr 2021 #36

Minutes later, a police supervisor radios in to officers on the scene to turn their body cameras off Demovictory9 Apr 2021 #9

We need huge consequences for turning off body cams TDale313 Apr 2021 #11

+1 live love laugh Apr 2021 #96

He should be fired immediately. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2021 #17

Yep murder uponit7771 Apr 2021 #21

well probably... "let's get our stories straight" Demovictory9 Apr 2021 #24

+1, body cams off equals instant guilt imho. They lost the benefit of the doubt uponit7771 Apr 2021 #26

Absolutely. Body cam needs to be on 100% of the time. joshcryer Apr 2021 #98

Plus body cams need to be on 100% of all police officers. IMO KS Toronado Apr 2021 #111

That is a very bad shoot. cinematicdiversions Apr 2021 #10

Was the youth armed? superpatriotman Apr 2021 #12

The reporting is indeed shitty and inconsistent. /nt spudspud Apr 2021 #22

"Toledo does not appear to be holding the gun as an officer shot him," ... uponit7771 Apr 2021 #27

Yes, sarisataka Apr 2021 #29

There's nothing in the video showing the kid had anything in his hands before getting shot ... uponit7771 Apr 2021 #41

Watch the 2:03-2:04 range sarisataka Apr 2021 #45

That's not a gun, its part of the fence behind him. Even if they found a gun at the scene they uponit7771 Apr 2021 #59

It isn't a part of the fence sarisataka Apr 2021 #68

No we don't have those views and no one is confirming he had a gun but a few people uponit7771 Apr 2021 #99

They did find a handgun with the slide locked back next to the fence. SYFROYH Apr 2021 #109

+1, The cop turning off his camera pisses me off to no end uponit7771 Apr 2021 #112

What prompted the pursuit Deminpenn Apr 2021 #54

+1, uponit7771 Apr 2021 #57

Shots fired. The kid did have a gun. He dropped it. He did NOT have it on him when he was killed mucifer Apr 2021 #105

Thanks Deminpenn Apr 2021 #107

This message was self-deleted by its author DiamondShark Apr 2021 #113

See the photo in my reply w#28 fright before shooting Empty hands up as they approach him luckone Apr 2021 #38

When the cop pulled the trigger? When the bullet hit him? No. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #53

He tossed the gun behind the fence and then turned to face the officer. Dustlawyer Apr 2021 #65

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"Put up your fucking hands" then blam! Hands up, no gun Arazi Apr 2021 #71

Oh, might he have been armed at some point? Then please tell me why bullwinkle428 Apr 2021 #92

omfg, they murderd this kid !!! Then requested body cams turned off!!!! uponit7771 Apr 2021 #13

Covering up evidence. sheshe2 Apr 2021 #32

+1, uponit7771 Apr 2021 #39

Why even bother to raise hands in compliance anymore? pandr32 Apr 2021 #14

This child was murdered malaise Apr 2021 #15

YES! +1000 Duppers Apr 2021 #69

Absolutely. Bristlecone Apr 2021 #89

We MUST overhaul the way we police...too many senseless killings....this is insane ashredux Apr 2021 #16

Reform after reform is what got us here. Reform got us George Floyd. Brooklyn Center, whose cops WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #52

Well, you cannot abolish "it all". ashredux Apr 2021 #73

I would argue that we don't. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #75

So....someone steals your TV...who do you call? ashredux Apr 2021 #80

A crisis team from my insurance company. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #81

Well, it is obvious that you really don't have a clue and really are not able to debate the issue ashredux Apr 2021 #83

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Maybe we should get rid of guns? apnu Apr 2021 #103

Do everything in your power to avoid EVER crossing paths with a police officer. nt Binkie The Clown Apr 2021 #18

This right here is the answer. Afrocat Apr 2021 #25

In the last 25 or 30 years I spoke with the police only once... Binkie The Clown Apr 2021 #60

Do everything in your power to abolish the police. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #51

It appears you are here to disrupt...not have a frank discussion ashredux Apr 2021 #87

What would you like to discuss? WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #88

My late brother was a cop...he was not perfect but I saw it up close. ashredux Apr 2021 #86

Situation Appropriate Response Binkie The Clown Apr 2021 #93

Its the guns. apnu Apr 2021 #104

That's a split second call. BlueTsunami2018 Apr 2021 #19

No it's not The kid was unarmed and if it was that split second stay the fuck away uponit7771 Apr 2021 #23

I don't think you watched the same video. BlueTsunami2018 Apr 2021 #48

I watched the video, there was no gun in kids hand and there has been no still pick with a clear gun uponit7771 Apr 2021 #61

I agree. I personally don't have enough information to even remotely judge the officer's response. Chakaconcarne Apr 2021 #30

There's a video from the body cam and nothing in the video shows clearly the kid with a gun and uponit7771 Apr 2021 #63

Adam Toledo Did NOT have a gun! Lokee11 Apr 2021 #62

Do you have a video of the tossing? The body cam of the LEO doesn't show anything clearly ... uponit7771 Apr 2021 #64

In an instant. BlueTsunami2018 Apr 2021 #94

Keep his distance, easy peasy. What is the alternative? Bad shooting hands down uponit7771 Apr 2021 #101

The Executioner yelled for him to stop and show me your hands - Lokee11 Apr 2021 #110

This message was self-deleted by its author DiamondShark Apr 2021 #114

He had his hands up. spanone Apr 2021 #20

This has to stop. luckone Apr 2021 #28

F**kin media is half the damn problem, anyone reporting that story should be sued for taking the CPD uponit7771 Apr 2021 #40

SCOTUS established guidelines when deadly force is justified Deminpenn Apr 2021 #46

Simple answer. Moostache Apr 2021 #70

Looked like murder to me. world wide wally Apr 2021 #31

His hands were up. Amazing how untrained our officers are, with itchy trigger fingers AZLD4Candidate Apr 2021 #33

"Amazing how untrained our officers are," WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #50

Part of me wants to argue with you. CrackityJones75 Apr 2021 #56

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Yea I have read that. And I live here in Minneapolis CrackityJones75 Apr 2021 #76

OMG how did I miss you were in Mpls. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #78

Yeah all options are on the table for me in fixing our world. CrackityJones75 Apr 2021 #91

Bad training is still no training. This coming from a teacher of 16 years in four AZLD4Candidate Apr 2021 #72

The system sustains itself. People are trained this way because it upholds the system. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #74

He had his hands up Jilly_in_VA Apr 2021 #34

"I've had about all I can take of these cops who are not people." WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #49

cameras off demand instant assumption of guilt, loss of pension & insurance - make it so bringthePaine Apr 2021 #37

+1, ... and why did they get close if they had to shoot ?! uponit7771 Apr 2021 #42

20 seconds Deminpenn Apr 2021 #43

"While 13 is still kid age, but, jmho, but 13 yr olds are much more sophisticated today." WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #47

Didn't say that at all Deminpenn Apr 2021 #55

Y'all, this can't be reformed. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #44

Just saw the video. I am so fricking mad and crying. Shell_Seas Apr 2021 #58

There was a clear attempt at cover-up dalton99a Apr 2021 #77

Appeared to me the boy was following the command of the PO to show his hands. Kaleva Apr 2021 #79

Agreed. Not fast enough, apparently. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #82

I can't even... Nevilledog Apr 2021 #84

.... but it appears he did have a gun a split second before the shooting and tossed it (which the co riversedge Apr 2021 #95

I'm not convinced the kid had a gun to begin with but he complied with the LEO order uponit7771 Apr 2021 #100

At 2:30 am in a dark alley after shots were fired someone armed live love laugh Apr 2021 #97

This message was self-deleted by its author mucifer Apr 2021 #106

This message was self-deleted by its author DiamondShark Apr 2021 #116

If you have a gun and you're around cops at all, assume you're getting shot gulliver Apr 2021 #115

This message was self-deleted by its author DiamondShark Apr 2021 #117

Two different societies, true, but also context gulliver Apr 2021 #118

This message was self-deleted by its author DiamondShark Apr 2021 #119