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StarfishSaver

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26. "He shouldn't have turned around"?

Reply to tcslee2020 (Reply #24)

Sat Apr 17, 2021, 10:09 PM

Apr 2021

Are you effing kidding me?

Cops are given a pass because they were scared and "in fear of their lives" but a frightened13-year-old civilian was supposed to have the presence of mind to know not to "turn around" when being yelled at in the dark by someone he couldn't see.

Bullshit.

Aside from the fact that the kid shouldn't be blamed for his own death because "he turned around," given the split second between ordering him to put his hands up and shooting him, it's clear the cop didn't shoot him because he turned around. He would likely have shot him whether he turned around and or not. And if a suspect turning around - a very natural and probably very common reaction in such a situation - wasn't anticipated and was enough to set off the cop, he doesn't need to be in the job.

Sick of these excuses and attempts to blame this child for the actions of a cop who is fully and solely to blame for this killing.

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Some Claiming Cop Was Justified To Murder Adam Toledo [View all] WHITT Apr 2021 OP

There is absolutely nothing justified about the execution of this 13 yo kid, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #1

Freepers are saying the real, unedited video shows he had a gun in his hand. Kaleva Apr 2021 #2

Heh WHITT Apr 2021 #8

They are saying the Chicago mayor's office edited the video in order to blame the police Kaleva Apr 2021 #37

The Problem There WHITT Apr 2021 #38

His Hands Look Clearly Empty ProfessorGAC Apr 2021 #3

Man, I don't know. That photo looks damning for police, the photo one second before not so much. Hoyt Apr 2021 #4

Webpage not available The webpage at https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/Ub_aAXDl8PcF19A8v9bhdQhjmG4/0x Fullduplexxx Apr 2021 #5

Corrected. You have to go to the Chicago Sun Times link. the photos won't reproduce here. Sorry. Hoyt Apr 2021 #6

But WHITT Apr 2021 #10

I'm not sure. He had what sure looks like a pistol at 2:38:39 and the other photo is 2:38:40. Hoyt Apr 2021 #13

BBC has the bodycam video. Elapsing time is shown in the upper right hand corner. lapucelle Apr 2021 #15

Thank you. Best video I've seen. It sure looks to me like the OP is at 20:38:40 and the shot was Hoyt Apr 2021 #20

He didn't have time to make the right decision. Mr.Bill Apr 2021 #7

Clown From The Police Union WHITT Apr 2021 #9

If cops are going to shoot and kill people who follow their orders anyway, what's the incentive RockRaven Apr 2021 #11

Exactly WHITT Apr 2021 #18

Happened less than 20 seconds after the officer got out of his car. A witness claims to have seen luckone Apr 2021 #12

The Fatal Police Shooting of 13-Year-Old Adam Toledo (Video) ItsjustMe Apr 2021 #14

If we accidentally killed a civilian in combat in the infantry Mysterian Apr 2021 #16

It sure looks bad with this picture! But there seems to be more to the story. NH Ethylene Apr 2021 #17

At best, the cop that killed Adam made a serious mistake. PufPuf23 Apr 2021 #19

Watch the video WarGamer Apr 2021 #21

12 yr old Tamir Rice was slaughtered in under 2 seconds for a toy Arazi Apr 2021 #22

Exactly, same justification was used against him as well, its sickening. n/t Humanist_Activist Apr 2021 #23

There's always an excuse StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #32

True, I'm a Socialist, and the amount of people... Humanist_Activist Apr 2021 #34

This StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #25

+1, uponit7771 Apr 2021 #40

Should not have turned around tcslee2020 Apr 2021 #24

"He shouldn't have turned around"? StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #26

He wasn't ordered by the cop to turn around tcslee2020 Apr 2021 #27

Adam is 13 years old and you're expecting perfect compliance? Arazi Apr 2021 #28

No tcslee2020 Apr 2021 #30

A veteran cop should know that it's very likely a person will turn around when he orders him StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #33

Eric Stillman has been a CPD cop for 6 years Arazi Apr 2021 #35

Cops can make all kinds of mistakes, even ones that end up with people dead, because they're StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #31

Well said nt Sunsky Apr 2021 #29

No WHITT Apr 2021 #39

The root cause is, of course, the Republican Drug War, a continuation of the Civil War and slavery gulliver Apr 2021 #36

I've shifted to empathizing with the cop. SYFROYH Apr 2021 #41

Cops say "drop it" wellst0nev0ter Apr 2021 #42

If the cop could not see it be dropped, then maybe yes. SYFROYH Apr 2021 #43

That excuse died with Laquan McDonald wellst0nev0ter Apr 2021 #45

I'm not sure how that is relevant here SYFROYH Apr 2021 #46

McDonald was HOLDING A DEADLY WEAPON!!1 wellst0nev0ter Apr 2021 #48

I don't see how the cops could see McDonald as an imminent threat at all SYFROYH Apr 2021 #49

They also thought Tamir Rice was an imminent threat wellst0nev0ter Apr 2021 #51

Once Again WHITT Apr 2021 #44

The sequence I described happened after the cop said all that. SYFROYH Apr 2021 #47

By Then WHITT Apr 2021 #50

It looks like he is still spinning around as I see it. SYFROYH Apr 2021 #52