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2naSalit

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19. I wasn't referring to that...

Mon Apr 19, 2021, 11:45 AM

Apr 2021

We already have a constabulary that perceives the public as the enemy and they act upon that belief with impunity, half the Congress is not performing its duties in good faith and are actively working to overthrow the government from within and a rag tag military of trained ne'er do wells and criminals to attack us along with other tactics of warfare...

So what is it other than a civil war?

It sure looks like one to me from over here in the cheap seats.

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No, we're not going to have a civil war. Not one that lasts more than a day. [View all] politruk Apr 2021 OP

Thank you. PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2021 #1

Ah, the "Helter-Skelter" scenario . . . politruk Apr 2021 #8

So 1/6 didn't happen? thx in advance uponit7771 Apr 2021 #49

Where exactly did I say that? PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2021 #50

"..People of various stripes have been predicting this for decades.." intimating the bad stuff uponit7771 Apr 2021 #53

Somehow I don't see "..People of various stripes have been predicting this for decades." PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2021 #56

Yeah, I mean ... 1/6 doesn't happen every millennium right? uponit7771 Apr 2021 #57

Whatever happens, if anything does, might be more like Northern Ireland Ocelot II Apr 2021 #2

I do worry a bit their side has more weapons Tree Lady Apr 2021 #33

That's what I've been thinking. It's all about inherited, festering grievances, with guns. ... Hekate Apr 2021 #37

You nailed it... bluecollar2 Apr 2021 #51

The problem is if they recruit enough Guardsmen and local police. Oathkeepers could... TreasonousBastard Apr 2021 #3

Exactly TheRealNorth Apr 2021 #24

And you're assuming they will? brush Apr 2021 #27

If the governor of a Republican-controlled state revolts.... TheRealNorth Apr 2021 #75

Seriously? And what are the odds of that happeing? brush Apr 2021 #77

Depends on whether they think they can win TheRealNorth Apr 2021 #100

Jan 6 wasn't a state/governor issue. It was federal and... brush Apr 2021 #102

The righties are rapidly radicalizing TheRealNorth Apr 2021 #103

Seeing what? I thought the discussion was about state governors... brush Apr 2021 #104

Let me spell it out... TheRealNorth Apr 2021 #106

Yeah, right. Keep believing that. We'll wait for your return to reality. brush Apr 2021 #107

+1, THIS !! A flag officer is the brother of an admitted traitor of America and HANDS DOWN was uponit7771 Apr 2021 #54

Thank you for a sensible post. Treefrog Apr 2021 #4

More likely to see occasional hits on soft targets, or political ones, than pitched battles. dameatball Apr 2021 #5

We are already in one. CrackityJones75 Apr 2021 #6

Massacres are massacres. politruk Apr 2021 #9

"They happen all the time" not in countries that aren't in some level of insurgency or civil war uponit7771 Apr 2021 #12

Unfortunately it's normal for us now with our gun culture. brush Apr 2021 #28

How is that not whistling past the graveyard? Regardless of whether we've normalized racism uponit7771 Apr 2021 #42

Columbine happened in 1999. Sure is taking these civil warriors a long time... brush Apr 2021 #47

Don't know what the reference to Columbine means ... that didn't involve flag officers of the US uponit7771 Apr 2021 #48

Oh, so you're not including the mass shootings with the Jan. 6... brush Apr 2021 #59

"Jan. 6 was field trip/vacation day off from work for magats" Cause 1/6 happens once every 6 ... uponit7771 Apr 2021 #62

You know as well as I do that many of those people took a... brush Apr 2021 #64

Yeah, we know that they took off from their 6 figure jobs but my point is 1/6 isn't a once every 50 uponit7771 Apr 2021 #66

Well they're sure taking their time. Didn't follow up when so many had the fever. brush Apr 2021 #69

First major battle of the civil war happened 6 months after the south succeeded. (link) uponit7771 Apr 2021 #70

The south did NOT succeed. They did however, secede. Treefrog Apr 2021 #99

And a further follow up... CrackityJones75 Apr 2021 #32

+1, true uponit7771 Apr 2021 #41

I disagree CrackityJones75 Apr 2021 #30

Also... CrackityJones75 Apr 2021 #31

+1, I think people are whistling past the graveyard like we did when Trump fired the military ... uponit7771 Apr 2021 #45

Agree completely CrackityJones75 Apr 2021 #88

We are the only country on the planet not in a declared war where this "happens all the time." Hekate Apr 2021 #38

" It was pretty damn well co-ordinated." 👈🏾 freakin SCARY coordinated too, there was LITTLE ... uponit7771 Apr 2021 #43

If it was so well coordinated sarisataka Apr 2021 #52

It didn't ?! They terrorized the damn country, they 100% succeeded at that uponit7771 Apr 2021 #55

The goal of a coup is to seize power sarisataka Apr 2021 #58

With that aspect of course, with the aspect of terror the succeeded 100% uponit7771 Apr 2021 #61

They failed miserably in that. There is no evidence that the nation was "terrorized" Kaleva Apr 2021 #65

No, ... no they didn't. I know tons of people who are scared shitless of those terrorist and their uponit7771 Apr 2021 #67

In what noticeable ways are these "tons of people" behaving differently? Kaleva Apr 2021 #73

Ask congress members I linked in my post what they do when they have PTSD because of 1/6 and uponit7771 Apr 2021 #74

We agree that the effect on members of Congress has been traumatic Kaleva Apr 2021 #78

Never claimed the nation as a whole was traumatized, 1/3rd sympathize with the terrorist and uponit7771 Apr 2021 #80

I took your comment in post #55 to mean that Kaleva Apr 2021 #81

Unnnn, Spain and Syria did just that during their civil wars it was urban vs suburban ... uponit7771 Apr 2021 #7

There is more than one way to have a civil war sarisataka Apr 2021 #10

To understand the future they envision, look to the Irish "Troubles" . . . Journeyman Apr 2021 #11

+1, uponit7771 Apr 2021 #13

Any possible civil war here would look nothing like the past one DetroitLegalBeagle Apr 2021 #14

exactly. Voltaire2 Apr 2021 #94

problem with this analysis is the reliance on sane law enforcement 0rganism Apr 2021 #15

We're already in one... 2naSalit Apr 2021 #16

flame wars on social media really don't count. Kaleva Apr 2021 #18

I wasn't referring to that... 2naSalit Apr 2021 #19

the people who have still not digested Jan 6 are amazing Voltaire2 Apr 2021 #90

It could be that... 2naSalit Apr 2021 #93

Congressional sympathizers do though uponit7771 Apr 2021 #22

This... exactly.. Blue 808 Apr 2021 #60

Not to give them too much credit, but the situatoin could be ripe for guerrilla warfare SYFROYH Apr 2021 #17

I think we're already there. 2naSalit Apr 2021 #20

Well that has been predicted about every war. former9thward Apr 2021 #21

Did you notice that none of the rioters who got arrested later put up a fight? Kaleva Apr 2021 #26

There are different types of civil wars. All you have to do is look at the contemporary world. Crunchy Frog Apr 2021 #23

the fact so many were turned in by family, friends and co-workers doesn't bode well for them Kaleva Apr 2021 #25

Exactly. There are not as many of these militia revolutionaries out there... brush Apr 2021 #29

They are like Flat Earthers. Kaleva Apr 2021 #34

Oh they talk trash about it, but the Oaf Creepers would never fire a shot. Initech Apr 2021 #35

Many Freepers talked tough before the the election but didn't follow through afterwards. Kaleva Apr 2021 #68

Yup... same group with a different name. Initech Apr 2021 #72

They vowed to fight to the death to defend the nation if we Commies attempted to steal the election Kaleva Apr 2021 #76

What do you propose we call it? "The Troubles"? Terrorism? Terrorists don't want or need government Hekate Apr 2021 #36

If the nation can accept 500,000 COVID19 deaths in a year, almost daily mass shootings, Kaleva Apr 2021 #39

Well, except maybe for Redneck Revolt. politruk Apr 2021 #40

It starts with "all police are racists" and bounces to "the police will join with the militias" brooklynite Apr 2021 #44

Thing about civil wars. They don't go as one would imagine they would. fescuerescue Apr 2021 #46

I really can't see any scenario politruk Apr 2021 #63

A flag officer that IS STILL SERVING was part of slowing the NG response to the attack on capital .. uponit7771 Apr 2021 #71

Agree. kairos12 Apr 2021 #82

+1, I believe 1/6 is a start too, people want their worlds to be safe so they're minimizing ... uponit7771 Apr 2021 #84

Oh I agree as things are now fescuerescue Apr 2021 #85

"If every private militia club in the United States were to gather in one place..." Yavin4 Apr 2021 #79

It will definitely happen if gun control happens ansible Apr 2021 #83

I'll be there with my crowbar... Mr.Bill Apr 2021 #86

Are we sad we might not be able to add to our collection of assault weapons? Voltaire2 Apr 2021 #91

Yeah, well, politruk Apr 2021 #97

It won't be a civil war raptor_rider Apr 2021 #87

You are assuming the loyalty of armed forces and police Voltaire2 Apr 2021 #89

This, I have no confidence that the military would not side with the secessionists Amishman Apr 2021 #92

You know, it's hard to believe, now, politruk Apr 2021 #95

That's not how a 2nd Civil War would look BGBD Apr 2021 #96

Exactly TheRealNorth Apr 2021 #101

Not sure why you want to argue the point, but the Civil War has been going msfiddlestix Apr 2021 #98

No one seriously contemplates the Texas NG lining up against the 101st Airborne WarGamer Apr 2021 #105