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57. A taser would not have gotten there in time, and would not have worked.

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Wed Apr 21, 2021, 11:09 AM

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Why didn't the cop in Ohio use a multi-shot taser on 15 yr old girl, Ma'khia Bryant?! [View all] uponit7771 Apr 2021 OP

Tasers have killed about a 1,000 people in the past 20 years, and police can do plenty of WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #1

In most cases a taser would be more than lethal than bullets? tia uponit7771 Apr 2021 #5

I disagree Miguelito Loveless Apr 2021 #10

From what I heard, she was shot within 10 seconds with no words exchanged or instructions given. TheBlackAdder Apr 2021 #30

I just watched the video I think the cop did yell "get down, get down".. before he shot. honest.abe Apr 2021 #43

Get down sounds like instructions for the crowd, Drop the knife would be for a knife wielder. TheBlackAdder Apr 2021 #72

Many cops seem to be looking for an excuse to kill black people samsingh Apr 2021 #2

Quite probably Miguelito Loveless Apr 2021 #13

That cop looks like a 90lb weakling who got his ass kicked from elementary all through high school. TheBlackAdder Apr 2021 #26

+1, uponit7771 Apr 2021 #29

I tend to agree as well Bettie Apr 2021 #68

Her own neighbor, who is black, disagrees. Treefrog Apr 2021 #76

Yup, or get training on disarming murderous knife wielders? Arazi Apr 2021 #3

What kind of tasers sarisataka Apr 2021 #4

Yep, part of my point if they don't have them that's part of the reason this is 100% bullshit ... uponit7771 Apr 2021 #7

Point taken sarisataka Apr 2021 #11

Whatever type the cop standing over her body in the picture had on his left side. haele Apr 2021 #42

I have seen a knife fight sarisataka Apr 2021 #50

Shoot to kill should (almost) NEVER be the first option,. MoonRiver Apr 2021 #6

Isn't her name Ma'khia Bryant? greenjar_01 Apr 2021 #8

Yes. TwilightZone Apr 2021 #18

thx uponit7771 Apr 2021 #22

The officer did the right thing. The most important thing he could do is save the other girls life marie999 Apr 2021 #9

He did the legally justifiable thing Miguelito Loveless Apr 2021 #14

Name one that you know for sure would have stopped her. marie999 Apr 2021 #20

The OP is about multi-shot tasers, are you of the opinion the girl could've muscled out ... uponit7771 Apr 2021 #23

She was right next to the girl. Would you want to bet your daughter's life that the officer marie999 Apr 2021 #41

I'm knowledgeable about taser so I would ... NO DOUBT ... take that bet uponit7771 Apr 2021 #63

Are you a rep for the company? kcr Apr 2021 #83

No I no law enforcement who use them and they agree with me uponit7771 Apr 2021 #106

Oh, that's even better n/t kcr Apr 2021 #109

Start a gofundme, I'll part with a few dollars to see you complete this challenge Devil Child Apr 2021 #104

Really ?! Let's not devolve the conversation into deathly threats uponit7771 Apr 2021 #105

Deadly threats? Almost as if you sense the danger in your suggested policing methods Devil Child Apr 2021 #113

A taser versus bullets Yes I do and I'll stand by that that seems common sense, bullets are more ... uponit7771 Apr 2021 #114

Do your police buddies tell you kcr Apr 2021 #125

of course not, they're basically saying tasers work to stop people and are less lethal bullets some uponit7771 Apr 2021 #126

You're leaving out whether they are equally as effective kcr Apr 2021 #127

Those links don't mention a 15 yr old girl, ... no either ignorant or starting shit uponit7771 Apr 2021 #128

Those links didn't mention any exceptions kcr Apr 2021 #131

We agree, here the context is a 15 yr old girl. To proffer that a 15 yr old girl would most likely uponit7771 Apr 2021 #132

To deny legit sources that say tasers aren't reliable kcr Apr 2021 #133

Chauvin's defense tried out of context test too and it didn't work, come on people ... uponit7771 Apr 2021 #134

In no way is my argument even close to the Chauvin defense kcr Apr 2021 #135

Its out of context because those studies leave out "15 yr old girl" uponit7771 Apr 2021 #136

I'm sure your cop buddies were careful to include them kcr Apr 2021 #137

Yes, cause ... that's the context here. Would a taser flex a 15 yr old girl ... most likely yes uponit7771 Apr 2021 #138

Any choice that led to everyone alive is obviously the best outcome kcr Apr 2021 #140

They pulled a gun and shot her, so my answer would be Miguelito Loveless Apr 2021 #98

I have had several encounters with angry people with knives Miguelito Loveless Apr 2021 #97

Are you available 24/7 to respond to knife wielding suspects in the community? Devil Child Apr 2021 #122

Really, that is your respone? Miguelito Loveless Apr 2021 #144

In case of an immediate mortal threat to another person... Happy Hoosier Apr 2021 #95

He shot her four times. He was enjoying it. PSPS Apr 2021 #25

Hyped on adrenaline or wnylib Apr 2021 #103

With cops, it's usually steroids PSPS Apr 2021 #124

The BEST thing he could do is save both girl's lives greenjar_01 Apr 2021 #32

I agree rockfordfile Apr 2021 #141

He wasn't interested in assessing threats, de-escalation, or anything other than killing SoonerPride Apr 2021 #12

My BF told me about it in the middle of the night and dewsgirl Apr 2021 #19

YEP, people are saying he didn't have a taser and that's even worse !! uponit7771 Apr 2021 #24

He had a taser...there's a clear picture of him moments later with a taser in his utility belt greenjar_01 Apr 2021 #33

No, you're wrong. (n/t) TheProle Apr 2021 #37

I am guessing his magazine held many more than doc03 Apr 2021 #53

So the cop was clairvoyant? sarisataka Apr 2021 #60

He entered the situation with gun holstered and asked what was going on? SYFROYH Apr 2021 #74

The girl in pink was moving to talk to the cop when it started as well AZSkiffyGeek Apr 2021 #99

Yep. The notion that he immediately started blasting away for no reason is false kcr Apr 2021 #100

His fellow police officers shouted "Blue Lives Matter" at Black onlookers shortly after the killing StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #75

Reports I read said that the cops responded before wnylib Apr 2021 #107

Use of Baton was another option. rgbecker Apr 2021 #15

'If Makaila was indeed in the act of stabbing the other girls' Celerity Apr 2021 #149

Because that would have drawn criticism too. Plus, don't think a taser would have worked in this Hoyt Apr 2021 #16

Hoyt, come on man ... a 15 yr girl would've muscled out of multiple taser shots ?! REALLY?! uponit7771 Apr 2021 #28

No taser would have stopped her before stabbing girl in pink. Hoyt Apr 2021 #35

No .... Hoyt, the question was rhetorical. There's LITTLE TO NO chance of a 15 yr old girl ... uponit7771 Apr 2021 #46

A taser would not have stopped her in time, sorry. Hoyt Apr 2021 #48

Hoyt, this is false on its face ... that's not an informed position. A 15 yr old girl would most uponit7771 Apr 2021 #55

A taser would not have gotten there in time, and would not have worked. Hoyt Apr 2021 #57

K, hoyt ... this even less informed. uponit7771 Apr 2021 #78

Not if the taser worked DetroitLegalBeagle Apr 2021 #47

Same could be said for the gun, sigh given all things working properly most likely a 15 yr old uponit7771 Apr 2021 #52

Makaila Simon was killed two years ago by her boyfriend in an accidental shooting. TwilightZone Apr 2021 #17

Agreed. He was too quick to shoot. honest.abe Apr 2021 #21

He immediately pulls his gun. They just don't value black lives Thrill Apr 2021 #27

+1, uponit7771 Apr 2021 #36

He saved a black life. TheProle Apr 2021 #40

We don't know that. We do know he took one Thrill Apr 2021 #45

Yep, next time they should smoke a cigarette and let the two Black ladies fight it out, one armed. Hoyt Apr 2021 #51

This isn't sarcasm and its uncalled for. You're wrong on the facts period. Most likely taser shots uponit7771 Apr 2021 #58

Not with a knife 0.005 seconds away from the lady in pink. Hoyt Apr 2021 #61

Oh please. You know damn well he wouldn't have immediately Thrill Apr 2021 #64

Like I said, next time I guess they should just stand back and let them fight it out, one armed. Hoyt Apr 2021 #69

Perhaps yes, up to a point. honest.abe Apr 2021 #77

He wasn't close enough to stop her so now you say he should allow the girl to stab another Black Demsrule86 Apr 2021 #146

This is a strange argument. Happy Hoosier Apr 2021 #94

The police were called to stop a stabbing. They pull up and the stabber Wingus Dingus Apr 2021 #31

So you think multiple taser shots wouldn't have worked on a 15 yr old girl? tia uponit7771 Apr 2021 #34

Not in time. She could have stabbed the other girl before the officer marie999 Apr 2021 #44

But he had time to pull and shoot his gun. WTF? Xoan Apr 2021 #54

RIGHT !?!? uponit7771 Apr 2021 #59

I don't know. I don't honestly care about all the other things he might have done-- Wingus Dingus Apr 2021 #49

Whether she was a "rage-filled maniac" or terrified, traumatized teenager trying to protect herself StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #80

Going by what I saw. You can create your own scenario and backstory Wingus Dingus Apr 2021 #82

With a taser you get one shot. One. And they are not accurate. GulfCoast66 Apr 2021 #147

Exactly this kcr Apr 2021 #56

That's an awful story--hard to get over witnessing that, I imagine. Wingus Dingus Apr 2021 #65

A few years later kcr Apr 2021 #67

That's a bit of PTSD, maybe, which anyone could have after that experience. Wingus Dingus Apr 2021 #70

Did he have a multi-shot taser? Nt hack89 Apr 2021 #38

They have tasers. TwilightZone Apr 2021 #39

So you're 100% sure the LEO on site had a taser? uponit7771 Apr 2021 #62

This is the cop who did the shooting, moments after the shooting greenjar_01 Apr 2021 #71

FUCKIN WOW !!! uponit7771 Apr 2021 #79

This message was self-deleted by its author StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #81

He should have had the taser in hand immediately after getting out of his squad car, not the gun honest.abe Apr 2021 #84

Tasers are wonderful, magical peace bringers kcr Apr 2021 #85

They are less lethal. honest.abe Apr 2021 #86

Which is why they are overused the vast majority of the time kcr Apr 2021 #88

If not for a situation like this then what are they for? honest.abe Apr 2021 #89

For zapping people who talk back or give dirty looks kcr Apr 2021 #90

+1, ... and people are trying to ignore that part of my op as much as possible to the point of uponit7771 Apr 2021 #91

Yes. TwilightZone Apr 2021 #73

I'll offer one reason: There was no action when the pulled up. (devil's advocate) SYFROYH Apr 2021 #66

Life Ain't Hollywood Sympthsical Apr 2021 #87

Bullets are not guaranteed either he had to pump her five times where a taser would have flexed her uponit7771 Apr 2021 #117

Tasers. Don't. Always. Work. Sympthsical Apr 2021 #129

Neither. do. bullets ... come on people, stop. A taser would flex a 15yr old girl there's a high uponit7771 Apr 2021 #130

You know, it will really be sad if this gets turned into a promotion of tasers kcr Apr 2021 #92

The point here is black people are met with more deadly force than white people uponit7771 Apr 2021 #110

Yes, they are. That is an undeniable fact. kcr Apr 2021 #123

I'll say this and leave it at that.... Happy Hoosier Apr 2021 #93

Those knowledgeable tasers understand it would have worked in a situation uponit7771 Apr 2021 #115

I disagree. But nice attack. Happy Hoosier Apr 2021 #119

Don't take it personally to proffer a 15-year-old girl would most likely muscle out of a uponit7771 Apr 2021 #121

"Muscle Out" ProfessorGAC Apr 2021 #143

There must be so many police trainers and their training videos Beringia Apr 2021 #96

I know law enforcement who say yes the taser would haveMost likely stopped at 15- uponit7771 Apr 2021 #101

Seeing a lot of BS. RegularJam Apr 2021 #102

RIGHT !!! The likelihood it would have been a clean stab is low but the likelihood uponit7771 Apr 2021 #108

Well, hell. Even the odds of surviving a gun shot are pretty good kcr Apr 2021 #111

We agree one gunshot but not five times in a chest to a kid, The point of the OP is black people uponit7771 Apr 2021 #112

I meant if the girl had a gun vs a knife kcr Apr 2021 #116

Think about grabbing a night stick instead of a gun. RegularJam Apr 2021 #118

Even this 👆 !! It look like there are multitude of ways besides bullets to end this uponit7771 Apr 2021 #120

yeah, right number 22 harumph Apr 2021 #148

Tasers don't always stop someone. LisaL Apr 2021 #139

Neither do bullets seeing he had to pump 5 of them into a 15 yr old girls chest. Point being uponit7771 Apr 2021 #142

Good report on the effectiveness of Taser in the field hardluck Apr 2021 #145

Maddow outlined exactly my point in the OP, its good her story line goes along what I'm claimng uponit7771 Apr 2021 #151

ID Required DontBelieveEastisEas Apr 2021 #150