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BlueNProud

(1,111 posts)
Thu May 6, 2021, 08:08 PM May 2021

I hope they dump Liz Cheney from leadership [View all]

There's a good article in Salon touching on this and it helped me focus my thoughts. First off, Liz Cheney is almost as bad as the rest of them. Substantively there's little daylight between her and the likes of Gomert, Boebert and MGT. The WaPo and NYT, forever in search of the moderate GOP will give her the martyr treatment but she's no Rockefeller or even Barry Goldwater for that matter. When it comes to counting the votes the only difference between Cheney and a cipher like Ronny Jackson is stylistic.

The fact that she's chosen to acknowledge the undeniable reality that Joe Biden won a fairly comfortable (by recent standards) victory in November and is the duly elected President of the United States does not make her Rosa Parks. There is no civil war in the GOP, there is merely a tiny handful of elected GOPers who, on a very narrow question, have the "courage" to admit that 2+2 is 4 while the rest of the cult insists that 2+2 is 5.

For those that say "no, we need rational leaders in the GOP" or "she's not as crazy as Congressman X" - I say give it up. During my lifetime the GOP has morphed from an often-malignant band of dirty tricksters to a full blown and quite open fascist, neo-Confederate and anti-democratic terrorist group. There is no return from this drift and the presence of Liz Cheney in their leadership won't make any difference.

The GOP should be encouraged to get as crazy as possible as soon as possible. It's going to happen anyway so let's get it on. I encourage the GOP to promote as many ill-informed, incompetent and unbalanced "leaders" as they can. Say what you want about people like Nixon, James Baker or even Newt Gingrich - they weren't mediocrities or dummies. They were formidable foes. One of the advantages we have is the breadth of experienced, talented, compassionate and intelligent elected officials we have on our side. Meanwhile across the aisle, the GOP bench is less than thin when it comes to smarts, likeability and reason but thick with bluster, idiocy and incompetence. The dumber you are the higher you rise in their hierarchy, fine by me.

I suspect in the end they won't remove Cheney from leadership because of her pedigree and the negative press coverage it will likely incite - but I sure hope they do.

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I hope so too, it'll cause an even bigger clash of rethugs Beachnutt May 2021 #1
I love it when I see posts like this NQAS May 2021 #2
I could care less what happens to Liz Cheney, the only thing that concerns me is gaining seats JohnSJ May 2021 #3
Send BBQ sauce and meat forks to both sides. denbot May 2021 #4
Thank you.nt chowder66 May 2021 #5
It will do nothing but dumb down the Republican caucus even further. OAITW r.2.0 May 2021 #6
Yes. And she'll still be there. When (and if) trumpist control Hortensis May 2021 #33
I agree with you about Cheney StarfishSaver May 2021 #7
In the meantime.... PlanetBev May 2021 #8
Blue, 'ya won me on THIS one!!!!!!!! MyOwnPeace May 2021 #9
I detest the Cheneys with a white heat having had some professional interaction with Dick decades hlthe2b May 2021 #10
What exactly are the consequences of Liz Cheney being removed from leadership? BlueNProud May 2021 #12
You just made my point. hlthe2b May 2021 #13
+1. Cheney -- democracy. No matter how conservative she is, Hortensis May 2021 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author dalton99a May 2021 #11
Liz Cheney today sounds too similar to Lindsay Graham in 2014. Dawson Leery May 2021 #14
RSO rso May 2021 #15
She'll survive. They can't afford the media firestorm. BlueNProud May 2021 #25
RSO rso May 2021 #31
She prefers to maintain a semblance of separation of powers and parliamentary democracy. David__77 May 2021 #16
Trump has NO political philosophy or even beliefs. world wide wally May 2021 #22
K n R ! Thanks for posting! JoeOtterbein May 2021 #17
Good post. You are absolutely correct. Here I was giving kudos to her for what, beings little less Pepsidog May 2021 #18
my simple view - fuck all republicans. they are ALL trash. NewHendoLib May 2021 #19
I completely agree. BobTheSubgenius May 2021 #20
Betting the other way. hay rick May 2021 #21
I think it is Cheney's pride that made her stand up. She knows how ridiculous this Big Lie looks. Midnight Writer May 2021 #23
K&R spanone May 2021 #24
I don't buy this Sgent May 2021 #26
Me too! 🙏 nt Raine May 2021 #27
I hope they dump her for different reasons. She wants a neutral Jan 6th commission Arazi May 2021 #28
Isn't this the same logic that led to tRump being the GOP nominee in 2016? ecstatic May 2021 #29
She's more dangerous because she's not stupid and incompetent like the Drumpf-ers UTUSN May 2021 #30
I stopped reading at "there was a good article in salon." BannonsLiver May 2021 #34
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