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dalton99a

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38. Most Southerners say "Civil War"
Sun May 9, 2021, 01:30 PM
May 2021
A few avid defenders of those symbols talk of the War of Northern Aggression, and at least some people assume it is the South’s name for that war. And if not that, they think, white southerners surely call it the War between the States. Yet in a 1994 Southern Focus Poll, still the most extensive poll on attitudes toward the Civil War, when asked the war’s name only 6.5 percent of southerners answered War Between the States, and fewer than 1 percent offered War of Northern Aggression.

That name came into use only in the second half of the twentieth century. Before the 1950s, almost no southerners used War of Northern Aggression. It emerged out of white southern resentment of federal intervention in race relations during the civil rights era, and its use grew after that, encouraged by the neo-Confederate movement. As the Southern Focus Poll showed, however, even then relatively few southerners adopted it.[2]

War between the States has had a wider acceptance and a much longer history; the Focus Poll’s results reflected a decline in its usage. Surveys in the South Atlantic and Gulf South states, conducted by the Linguistic Atlas of the United States in the mid-twentieth century, found more southerners called it the War between the States, although still fewer than 25 percent. The polls also showed the upper-class and well-educated were the most likely to use it, which probably reflected the strength of the Lost Cause among the white South’s elite at that time.[3]

.. Even in the Southern Historical Society Papers, which began publication shortly after the war and which scholars consider the voice of the most intractable former Confederates, Civil War appeared twice as often as War Between the States.[5]

https://www.journalofthecivilwarera.org/2018/09/what-the-name-civil-war-tells-us-and-why-it-matters/

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Missouri and Kentucky were slave states, but they stayed with the Union during the Civil War. Aristus May 2021 #1
It may be in error billh58 May 2021 #2
I found the following on billh58 May 2021 #5
Ask anyone from Kansas MuseRider May 2021 #9
"Bleeding Kansas" is all but forgotten. And it shouldn't be. TygrBright May 2021 #13
I am not certain MuseRider May 2021 #15
By the skin of their teeth. paleotn May 2021 #8
They had state governments in exile, but neither seceded as you stated. Gore1FL May 2021 #12
They also make up the least vaccinated to date. paleotn May 2021 #3
Not Virginia which is now a Blue State! 😁 Duppers May 2021 #18
VA is an exception. paleotn May 2021 #20
Yep, yep, we are! Duppers May 2021 #21
Agree completely about the rube states listed, but a bunch more have been added -- TX, MT, ND, SD, Hoyt May 2021 #4
I was going to add Ohio has plenty. blueinredohio May 2021 #7
We are a purple country scarytomcat May 2021 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author paleotn May 2021 #6
This is distressing Deuxcents May 2021 #10
Wow, I always thought Kentucky wasn't part of the Confederacy liberal_mama May 2021 #11
Lots of non-Confederate states are working to resurrect Jim Crow 2.0 Fiendish Thingy May 2021 #14
Your point is well taken billh58 May 2021 #16
West Virginia wasn't part of the Confederacy, appalachiablue May 2021 #17
They guy who carried that flag in the Capitol was from Delaware. Treefrog May 2021 #19
The problem we face today is that MAGA hats & Confederate flags are displayed in every state... Hekate May 2021 #22
Too true, but billh58 May 2021 #23
Hawai'i is my old home state & I was really shocked when that guy turned up in the news... Hekate May 2021 #27
I found this article about Nick Ochs: billh58 May 2021 #28
Good summary. It is to be hoped he gets his just desserts for 1/6 and has a federal vacation... Hekate May 2021 #30
It wouldn't be another civil war, because the first one is ongoing gulliver May 2021 #24
Yes, and in their minds billh58 May 2021 #25
Their goal is white minority rule like Apartheid South Africa. roamer65 May 2021 #37
Colin Woodard's "American Nations" misanthrope May 2021 #26
Thanks for the billh58 May 2021 #29
More Pennsylvanians Have Been Arrested for Capitol Riots Than Residents of Any Other State dalton99a May 2021 #31
And if you ever travel outside Philadelphia tishaLA May 2021 #32
Thank you for this Dalton! Treefrog May 2021 #34
Regional prejudice billh58 May 2021 #35
I grew up in a southern state. Treefrog May 2021 #36
There's no enjoyment to be had billh58 May 2021 #39
Most Southerners say "Civil War" dalton99a May 2021 #38
Point taken billh58 May 2021 #40
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