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DenaliDemocrat

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110. You can wait until you turn to dust

Mon May 10, 2021, 08:06 AM

May 2021

I’m not going to go digging through journal articles for you.

By the way, the data you posted actually supports my argument. None of the mutations have rendered the vaccines useless, nor are the expected to.

Again, the spike protein is limited in how much it can mutate. When the tertiary structure can no longer interact with the ACE 2 receptors, it cannot enter the cell.

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India. Pay attention to India. [View all] MineralMan May 2021 OP

I notice the news outlets are trying to bury the unfolding crisis in India. roamer65 May 2021 #1

Really? It's on CNN quite a bit (at least once or twice an hour) n/t MerryHolidays May 2021 #5

I don't have CNN. roamer65 May 2021 #7

BBC World Service nights to the US, on my NPR station is still talking about it. irisblue May 2021 #24

That's a good thing. roamer65 May 2021 #25

So you don't watch US news sources BannonsLiver May 2021 #36

They have websites. roamer65 May 2021 #58

How would you know, you've said you don't consume US media? BannonsLiver May 2021 #61

MSNBC is covering it too -- If you've no American news channels whathehell May 2021 #54

I don't watch opinion based "news/sadistic entertainment" either mac2766 May 2021 #57

It's all over BBC and Al Jazeera. JI7 May 2021 #63

rad... Maxheader May 2021 #99

Yep. There's another thread like this TraceNC May 2021 #50

Not really. All are covering it fairly heavily. MineralMan May 2021 #11

Find the front page India story. roamer65 May 2021 #14

Straight from your link: MineralMan May 2021 #17

That's not the lead story. roamer65 May 2021 #18

Do you only read one story on a news site? MineralMan May 2021 #19

I expect an ongoing major tragedy to be lead news. roamer65 May 2021 #20

OK. Whatever. Scroll a bit. MineralMan May 2021 #21

Personal? HUAJIAO May 2021 #40

I agree with you. secondwind May 2021 #45

The Lead story Claire Oh Nette May 2021 #82

It has led the CBS news almost every night oldsoftie May 2021 #96

I have been barely checking the news over the past few days. Politicub May 2021 #119

Not true at all! Nt USALiberal May 2021 #132

Not just India. ananda May 2021 #2

+1 roamer65 May 2021 #4

Rec. Treefrog May 2021 #3

All vaccines distributed in the U.S. are manufactured in the U.S. dalton99a May 2021 #6

Not the J & J - the reports were it was safe because it was made in Europe womanofthehills May 2021 #39

The vaccines werent contaminated, one ingredient was oldsoftie May 2021 #95

That's not accurate. LisaL May 2021 #103

They used the plasmid vector for the AZ virus DenaliDemocrat May 2021 #123

Sounds like contaminated when they caught many workers womanofthehills May 2021 #127

I stand corrected! oldsoftie May 2021 #126

Also, all the early Pfizer vaccines in the US womanofthehills May 2021 #41

As said, much of the world supply was to be produced by India, so that the Hortensis May 2021 #8

Looks like we are about to have a lot of extra vaccines, since our anti-vaxxers are refusing to get LisaL May 2021 #9

What's a weird dichotomy is that trump bragged to no end Laura PourMeADrink May 2021 #52

Yes! they insist that Trump get credit for Warp Speed; oldsoftie May 2021 #97

The more you think about it the more irrational it is. Deaths were unreal, Laura PourMeADrink May 2021 #136

I don't think the vaccines in the US come from India Klaralven May 2021 #10

Thanks for that information. MineralMan May 2021 #13

I read that we are supposed to get vaccines from India later this yr womanofthehills May 2021 #47

This is what we need to keep an eye on... FalloutShelter May 2021 #12

Quit fear mongering please DenaliDemocrat May 2021 #15

+1. Which is why the WHO calls B.1.617 a "variant of interest" and not a "variant of concern" dalton99a May 2021 #22

Modi is so similar to the Apricothellbeast, but slightly more talented. irisblue May 2021 #31

I admire Sikhs. roamer65 May 2021 #32

thanks for that accurate snapshot. stopdiggin May 2021 #35

Public Health England says coronavirus variant B.1.617.2 is a variant of concern (sub-lineage, thus Celerity May 2021 #94

Now there is B.1.617.2 and B.1.617.3 womanofthehills May 2021 #128

B.1.617.2 is the nasty one so far Celerity May 2021 #139

WHO says India Covid variant of 'global concern' Celerity May 2021 #138

Thank you. TheRickles May 2021 #26

Very true. roamer65 May 2021 #27

Thank you for this. Yavin4 May 2021 #34

Post removed Post removed May 2021 #59

I'd settle for not being so painfully obvious. BannonsLiver May 2021 #38

Thanks for this information. ShazzieB May 2021 #51

+1 Thank you Deminpenn May 2021 #56

Wow, you have quite a low post count to be chiding one of the most revered voices Ferrets are Cool May 2021 #68

Lol, so post count makes him a microbiologist? DenaliDemocrat May 2021 #77

Seriously. That's almost the same thing as TraceNC May 2021 #93

I truly doubt you were here before me Ferrets are Cool May 2021 #108

Well, he sure hasn't earned a degree in DenaliDemocrat May 2021 #109

+1 DTomlinson May 2021 #76

no, it is not fear mongering Skittles May 2021 #81

It is fear mongering when you say that the mutations DenaliDemocrat May 2021 #83

".....some of those may well be resistant to our vaccine immunity" Skittles May 2021 #84

No it's not DenaliDemocrat May 2021 #100

I am still waiting for proof of that poster's huge claim Celerity May 2021 #107

You can wait until you turn to dust DenaliDemocrat May 2021 #110

This is a huge claim, please produce multiple links (as you said 'most believe') for proof. TIA Celerity May 2021 #89

Go on Reddit DenaliDemocrat May 2021 #101

bollocks answer (and you do not know what I am capable of understanding, how arrogant of you) Celerity May 2021 #105

Good for you, since you are adept at researching DenaliDemocrat May 2021 #113

I just posted a study that showed 10.4% efficacy rate for the AZ vax versus the B.1.351 variant Celerity May 2021 #118

Please define efficacy DenaliDemocrat May 2021 #121

Efficacy of the ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 Covid-19 Vaccine against the B.1.351 Variant Celerity May 2021 #125

There's your issue: claiming how the pandemic is evolving is "self-evident" Politicub May 2021 #120

Wow. What is self evident that the spike protein DenaliDemocrat May 2021 #124

THAT is good to know. Because I had wondered about mutations oldsoftie May 2021 #98

Normally, I do not respond to posts like yours, but MineralMan May 2021 #112

I think your grasp of virology is awful DenaliDemocrat May 2021 #115

What you think about my "grasp of virology" doesn't really concern me. MineralMan May 2021 #116

But most everything you say is exactly the point the OP is trying to make MerryHolidays May 2021 #129

Do you have a source for that? IronLionZion May 2021 #117

+1,000 malaise May 2021 #16

Yes, it is! Cozmo May 2021 #23

All thanks to Modi. roamer65 May 2021 #28

Then look at Trump's other friend malaise May 2021 #29

Birds of fascist feather flock together. roamer65 May 2021 #30

approaching 400,000 new Covid-19 cases daily. Bucky May 2021 #33

According to the reports on the ground from CNN there is a lot of under reporting of the deaths. mucifer May 2021 #85

I don't understand why the US Pharmas cannot share the vaccine formula FakeNoose May 2021 #37

"Isn't this a time when corporate profits and ROIs take a backseat to saving the human race HUAJIAO May 2021 #44

Pfizer makes enough dough already FakeNoose May 2021 #48

All pharma companies already have enough money. HUAJIAO May 2021 #49

The "formula" is not secret. hunter May 2021 #55

They can already manufacture vaccines. Modi gave away vaccines to other countries JI7 May 2021 #64

Sounds like someone we all know. LisaL May 2021 #104

we're number one! we're number one! NJCher May 2021 #42

we have over 2x the deaths as India and 1/4 the population. HUAJIAO May 2021 #46

If the data is accurate. There are reports that the Indian gov is not reporting all the deaths mucifer May 2021 #86

I believe it. HUAJIAO May 2021 #87

My daughter's friend lost her dad Marthe48 May 2021 #43

And what I read in Texas Trib the other day... They don't really Laura PourMeADrink May 2021 #53

Post removed Post removed May 2021 #66

Really? Why in the world would he be against it? Jeez he was Laura PourMeADrink May 2021 #74

Canada has introduced a travel ban specific to India and Pakistan. BobTheSubgenius May 2021 #60

Too many people there chose religion, temples and statues over jobs, health, education JI7 May 2021 #62

No one is free and clear until all of us are Larissa May 2021 #65

And then there is this new threat...the black fungus Ferrets are Cool May 2021 #67

When your body is fighting off one disease, MineralMan May 2021 #71

Former Idiot would say "aMErica FIRST!" Joe Biden is DOING something. lastlib May 2021 #69

Yes! MineralMan May 2021 #72

Check this out malaise May 2021 #70

Yes. Explosive increase. MineralMan May 2021 #73

This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity May 2021 #91

The problem is Modi. DTomlinson May 2021 #75

India's problem is it's populist despot. Dawson Leery May 2021 #78

The messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccines (Pfizer-BioNTech & Moderna) help prevent severe illness & death. Justice matters. May 2021 #79

thank you Skittles May 2021 #80

No one thinks everything is fixed because we are vaccinated. GulfCoast66 May 2021 #88

Why the world's most vaccinated country is seeing an unprecedented spike in coronavirus cases womanofthehills May 2021 #92

Thankfully we in US have more efficient vaccines than that. LisaL May 2021 #102

AstraZeneca Vaccine Fails To Protect Against The South African Variant (B.1.351) 10.4% efficacy rate Celerity May 2021 #114

it's not 100% effective Skittles May 2021 #130

No one expected it to be. But the numbers are stacking up. GulfCoast66 May 2021 #135

Yes. I've had both shots and so has my wife. MineralMan May 2021 #111

I agree. Treefrog May 2021 #122

K & R Progressive Jones May 2021 #90

Indian Official says he doesn't care if people die as long as he survives JI7 May 2021 #106

that pretty much sounds like every repuke I know Skittles May 2021 #131

POS is probably fully vaccinated dalton99a May 2021 #134

Is anyone of note or weight arguing we ignore it? LanternWaste May 2021 #133

"human soup" really? SYFROYH May 2021 #137