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Hekate

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22. Fine, I can tell you are really into draconian punishment. However, where did you get the idea that
Fri May 14, 2021, 12:10 AM
May 2021

...COVID hospitalization was free? For everyone? Forever?

I googled “is covid hospitalization free?” and came up with this from last November
https://www.nextavenue.org/the-sky-high-cost-of-some-covid-19-hospital-bills/
>You may have heard that a law Congress passed this spring (The Families First Coronavirus Response Act) said health insurers would cover the cost of COVID-19 testing. But the law didn't include the cost of coronavirus treatment. (More)
>

There’s plenty of other articles. I then googled “how much does covid treatment cost?”
This came up
>In July, the report showed nationally the median charge amount for COVID-19 inpatient care – for people without insurance or who went out of network – was $45,683 for people aged 51 to 60 and $34,662 for those in the 23 to 30 age bracket. Nov 5, 2020.
> Average cost of hospital care for COVID-19 ranges from ...https://www.healthcarefinancenews.com › news › average...

You can certainly do a more refined search than the quick one I just did.

Insurance companies may have done some grace periods, but live or die, hospitalization seems to average out about $30,000, and that’s for people who don’t stay in on a vent for months. Long-haulers have to deal with medications and treatments from their homes.

Over a year ago I wondered if we would see hospitals going bankrupt, or if real reform would finally be imposed on Blue Cross and the rest of the for-profit industry. None of our American system is really sustainable — and that’s all without excluding smokers, drinkers, and non-vaxxers. Oh and gay men who might get AIDS — remember when that was a thing?

If we start allowing people to be excluded from medical care for being non-compliant with a perfect health regimen, we will be stepping into a system even more inhumane than the one we already had before the pandemic. I’ve been in on discussions over whether the undocumented workers in my county should be getting “our” medical care for contagious diseases like TB or non-contagious conditions like childbirth. First, they are openly recruited by farmers, even if they don’t have papers. Second, they are producing the food you and I eat. Third, — WTF? I mean, WTAF?

So no — medical care is or should be in a category all its own. People get treated for medical conditions, regardless. We don’t get to call ourselves ethical or moral human beings if we knowingly let people suffer and die for being poor or for being flawed human beings.


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+1...but... roamer65 May 2021 #1
There are a lot of people who cannot take the vaccine even though they would otherwise wish to... RockRaven May 2021 #2
We can make exceptions for the very few that cannot take the vaccine for other medical reasons. Yavin4 May 2021 #6
2.7% of US adults are immunocompromised and at the moment there is not sufficient data for RockRaven May 2021 #12
As I said, there will be exceptions to the rule. Yavin4 May 2021 #13
That would require a law change to ACA fescuerescue May 2021 #3
Right now. The government pays for treatment of COVID for the uninsured. Yavin4 May 2021 #4
wait. so we have universal coverage for Covid19? fescuerescue May 2021 #5
If we had universal coverage, that would force everyone to get the vaccine. n/t Yavin4 May 2021 #7
You think? fescuerescue May 2021 #8
So someone shows up in the ER WA-03 Democrat May 2021 #9
No. They would be charged for their treatment just like a smoker showing up in the ER Yavin4 May 2021 #10
Okay - got it WA-03 Democrat May 2021 #18
Nope. Raising insurance premiums for those where the vaccine isn't contradicted JohnSJ May 2021 #11
I don't know about that, but understand the sentiment. Are we going Hoyt May 2021 #14
The obese pay for their medical treatment with their health insurance. Yavin4 May 2021 #15
You can lose your car insurance with multiple tickets are traffic accidents... VarryOn May 2021 #16
There already are financial disincentives for the obese and the smoker Yavin4 May 2021 #17
I like that...giving a deadline a few months out.... VarryOn May 2021 #19
I agree with you 1000% n/t OhioChick May 2021 #20
First, I've never heard of Free Hospital care. Must be new. GulfCoast66 May 2021 #21
Not new. It's called the Cares Act. Yavin4 May 2021 #23
Fine, I can tell you are really into draconian punishment. However, where did you get the idea that Hekate May 2021 #22
The CARES Act for the uninsured. Yavin4 May 2021 #24
Thank gods for the CARES Act then, and let's hope it holds Hekate May 2021 #25
First, the FDA has not approved any of the vaccines yet. marie999 May 2021 #26
Covid treatment isn't free...the Vaccine is free...but the idea that if you get Covid...you will Demsrule86 May 2021 #27
Those people were not well informed. Yavin4 May 2021 #32
WTAF. WhiskeyGrinder May 2021 #28
It will soon be treated like many other illnesses, monetarily. nt RegularJam May 2021 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author pinkstarburst May 2021 #30
The gunshot, obesity, and cancer patient victims are all charged fees by the hospital. Yavin4 May 2021 #31
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