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I cannot help feeling this way. The CDC under Biden has just screwn [View all] boston bean May 2021 OP

Maximum respect, but I WHOLEHEARTEDLY disagree with you MerryHolidays May 2021 #1

Nation's largest nurses union condemns new CDC guidance on masks NullTuples May 2021 #111

Thank you for being one of the very few people to post something specific like this MerryHolidays May 2021 #114

"this was a risk-based analysis." for the vaxed for the unvaxible this screams disaster to do uponit7771 May 2021 #165

Our family has been getting vaxxed as soon as our age tiers open NullTuples May 2021 #221

I agree...im simmering inside every time I go out the last 2 days... FirstLight May 2021 #2

to clarify... I am seeing way more of the population in my town unmasked than % that are vaxxed FirstLight May 2021 #6

The opposite here... Eyeball_Kid May 2021 #38

The opposite in Raleigh, NC. SMC22307 May 2021 #170

You definitely should. You are only day two of the two weeks until fully vaccinated jimfields33 May 2021 #37

Ordered a grocery delivery tonight, kept me out of the store on a Sunday. sarcasmo May 2021 #137

I agree with you 100%.... OhioChick May 2021 #3

If there was a vax database we might have been able to exclude these persons boston bean May 2021 #5

Got that right! Rebl2 May 2021 #21

+1, there will be a surge post memorial day weekend and HC workers will be swamped and uponit7771 May 2021 #164

So, Let Me Get This Straight ProfessorGAC May 2021 #4

Ummm it was easier to enforce a mask for all policy. boston bean May 2021 #7

ding! ...and they WON'T get vaccinated, which screws up herd immunity FirstLight May 2021 #10

Not really. They have chosen to gain immunity by getting the disease. NNadir May 2021 #68

"Overall, the effect will be to raise the intellectual level of the public" dweller May 2021 #98

I'm not quite as confident about being wnylib May 2021 #101

I'm in Western New York (Erie County). A friend of my aunt is in the hospital right now on a vent liberal_mama May 2021 #118

I think from the number of cases like wnylib May 2021 #135

There is increasing evidence that antibodies are only a small part of the story. NNadir May 2021 #122

Great post. Thanks for this. Native May 2021 #128

The NPR program was not a discussion wnylib May 2021 #154

You, like the media, are raising specific cases to characterize the general. NNadir May 2021 #166

Silly ProfessorGAC May 2021 #11

Biden projected 70% vaccinated by early July boston bean May 2021 #13

That's what is bothering me about this abrupt decision. It doesn't make sense to me. liberal_mama May 2021 #54

+2 appalachiablue May 2021 #139

In most states there are no mask mandates. GulfCoast66 May 2021 #140

Again, this is not about the vaccinated. It is about the recommendation and boston bean May 2021 #146

With respect, I don't see your point. The CDC is supposed to do science. GulfCoast66 May 2021 #156

People will not follow the CDC recommendation. boston bean May 2021 #159

It does not. But that my point. GulfCoast66 May 2021 #167

Communities follow their recommendations. boston bean May 2021 #168

Depends where you live. Means almost nothing in Florida GulfCoast66 May 2021 #183

I would rather they had said yes it is safe for vaccinated persons boston bean May 2021 #184

Fair enough. But telling people you are safe without a mask, but should still wear one GulfCoast66 May 2021 #194

The people that aren't vaccinated WON't get vaccinated. CrackityJones75 May 2021 #171

That is just not true. boston bean May 2021 #172

What is not true? CrackityJones75 May 2021 #179

That the all unvaxed are anti vax or mask holes. boston bean May 2021 #180

I said there is no excuse. CrackityJones75 May 2021 #185

Umm a vaccine is not available for those under age of 12, immunocompromised boston bean May 2021 #186

Funny I got mine in a rural area. CrackityJones75 May 2021 #189

Excellent post! beaglelover May 2021 #190

It takes time. And everyone is not you. boston bean May 2021 #191

Damn straight! Agree 100%. beaglelover May 2021 #173

here's where the SCIENCE doesn't jive... FirstLight May 2021 #9

Bad Analysis ProfessorGAC May 2021 #14

Umm, again, I had covid, and got the vax. Which group you counting me in? boston bean May 2021 #15

ok thanks... FirstLight May 2021 #24

No, not right. former9thward May 2021 #66

I guess it's the math FirstLight May 2021 #89

Then you should recognize the flaws in the CDC's use of the data. Ms. Toad May 2021 #102

Fully vaxxed people wearing masks... Happy Hoosier May 2021 #76

This is about the recommendation. boston bean May 2021 #78

I get that... but it seems to me.... Happy Hoosier May 2021 #86

When under 40% of the country is vaxed I think it does come into play. boston bean May 2021 #88

By deffinition Zeitghost May 2021 #206

The science ***DOES*** say spread will get worse if those who aren't vaxed don't social ... uponit7771 May 2021 #17

Even if you have been vaccinated you still have a 5% chance of getting the virus. marie999 May 2021 #20

But you won't die or be hospitalized if you are vaxed. beaglelover May 2021 #28

A very tiny percentage of vaxxed people could still die from COVID19. Blue_true May 2021 #151

Very very tiny percentage. beaglelover May 2021 #152

Correct, it is very tiny. Blue_true May 2021 #153

You can still get loved ones sick, if people have small children for instance uponit7771 May 2021 #160

You are assuming that everyone who gets the vaccine makes lots of antibodies womanofthehills May 2021 #110

I am sure elderly persons do not make as many. boston bean May 2021 #121

A 5% chance of getting the virus, luvtheGWN May 2021 #127

5% chance? Where are you seeing this? GulfCoast66 May 2021 #130

I've read 0.05%, but I haven't seen a figure as high as 5% ... where are you getting that? fishwax May 2021 #132

I know. Their position makes NO sense! beaglelover May 2021 #25

Mild covid cases can cause health issues for that person forever. boston bean May 2021 #31

The good science that says it will protect us assumes that people are getting it in the first place. Gore1FL May 2021 #40

a vaccine is not magic Bmoboy May 2021 #62

Less than half the country are vaccinated iemanja May 2021 #93

This message was self-deleted by its author hamsterjill May 2021 #8

another good point... FirstLight May 2021 #12

Forbes has an article out about this womanofthehills May 2021 #116

Maybe Booster shots are off the table now if we can run around maskless now! liberal_mama May 2021 #193

Thread trashed! LW1977 May 2021 #16

Good move! beaglelover May 2021 #30

Like yours were? Nt USALiberal May 2021 #142

I have no idea if some people trashed my thread. beaglelover May 2021 #150

You're all over all these threads. Treefrog May 2021 #187

So are you. It's a discussion board. You clearly want us to wear masks until we die. beaglelover May 2021 #188

Covid isn't a natural way to live either. boston bean May 2021 #199

"It is NOT a natural way to live." tenderfoot May 2021 #209

I'm fully vaccinated. How am I a risk to others??? beaglelover May 2021 #210

I'm glad you think of only yourself. tenderfoot May 2021 #211

Great! So I'm not a risk to others. Thanks! beaglelover May 2021 #216

Not until you are. tenderfoot May 2021 #217

Here's where we are: Mr.Bill May 2021 #18

They were never going to get vaxxed anyway bucolic_frolic May 2021 #19

So, we are risking more surges for a psychological experiment? boston bean May 2021 #22

The psychological experiment will not work liberal_mama May 2021 #113

Wholeheartedly Agree! SheltieLover May 2021 #23

CDC "lying," CDC "disgraced,"... SMC22307 May 2021 #174

Cdc admitted to lying about masks at beginning of pandemic. SheltieLover May 2021 #176

Are you really.. Zeitghost May 2021 #207

Are you really questioning what they said? SheltieLover May 2021 #208

"A rant worthy of Meghan McCain"? That's quite rude and offensive. George II May 2021 #212

Care to provide some evidence? brooklynite May 2021 #26

I'm vaccinated. PoindexterOglethorpe May 2021 #27

Yeah, not good advice. I know two friends who have just tested positive after being fully vaxed... FailureToCommunicate May 2021 #29

The recommendation should have been metric based. boston bean May 2021 #32

But did they get seriously ill and require hospitalization? n/t Yavin4 May 2021 #46

Even if that's not the case they can spread it to small children or others who can't get vaxed now uponit7771 May 2021 #161

No, but each lost days of work being quarantined. Both (separately) got it from a positive stranger FailureToCommunicate May 2021 #181

I hope your friends are ok! SheltieLover May 2021 #177

They are. Thanks. No real symptoms, but they each lost work while quarantining. FailureToCommunicate May 2021 #182

Glad they are ok! SheltieLover May 2021 #196

Each fully vaxed (and wearing masks when likely contacted positive persons) but their work... FailureToCommunicate May 2021 #218

Let the mask holes be mask holes Bluesaph May 2021 #33

Nursing organizations condemn the CDC rec, CDC wont be working on maskholes post memorial day uponit7771 May 2021 #162

One should ask, why did I get vaccinated? I think speaknow May 2021 #34

There are many reasons. Look them up. boston bean May 2021 #35

Please provide some evidence Yavin4 May 2021 #45

Children, immunocompromised. boston bean May 2021 #48

Children 12 and older will soon be able to get the vaccine. Yavin4 May 2021 #61

Do you know and is there science on the possible long term efffects on children who have had a mild boston bean May 2021 #64

So, your solution is that everyone should wear masks indefintely? Yavin4 May 2021 #67

No. Biden said we would have 70% vaxed by July. boston bean May 2021 #70

But the long term effects will still be a question in July. No? n/t Yavin4 May 2021 #82

Umm we are under 40% vaxed right now. 70% would be much much better. boston bean May 2021 #83

Biden said 70% of adults at least 1 shot by July, we're at 60% now n/t mathematic May 2021 #195

Yeah. Are we at 70%? boston bean May 2021 #198

I'm correcting your misleading rhetoric about Biden's claim mathematic May 2021 #201

Does it change the fact that less than 40% of people are fully vaccinated? boston bean May 2021 #202

Agreed. As a vaccinated parent of a 10 year old, I'm not really worried about COVID. Ace Rothstein May 2021 #99

13% of kids have long term effects of COVID and even if they didn't who in the fuck would uponit7771 May 2021 #163

This. sheshe2 May 2021 #222

You discount new data...it is not on some political timeline... ashredux May 2021 #36

What changed with the covid situation in the US in like one week? boston bean May 2021 #41

World wide data on effectiveness of the vaccines...as well as new US data ashredux May 2021 #51

I am sorry but he is not infallible. He essentially lied to the public under trump boston bean May 2021 #53

Sorry..but I don't think your data is correct....what lie? ashredux May 2021 #55

It is well documented. Look it up. boston bean May 2021 #56

Ah...No...you made a claim. Support it. Rather simple... ashredux May 2021 #59

Nope. You question it you do your own research. boston bean May 2021 #60

You just lost this one...if you make a claim and can't support it, or even say what was a lie.. ashredux May 2021 #63

I'm not playing some game. You question something someone says on the internet, boston bean May 2021 #69

False? What Lie? You said he lied...name the lie. ashredux May 2021 #71

I did already. boston bean May 2021 #72

Then why not answer my question....what lie? You can't...name your source...you won't ashredux May 2021 #74

Because I don't answer to you. boston bean May 2021 #81

Post removed Post removed May 2021 #85

Alright. I changed my mind and decided to help you out. Here you go. boston bean May 2021 #117

And who could forget months of "Masks do not protect you. They protect others". Cetacea May 2021 #123

If he knew. How did fauci not know. boston bean May 2021 #124

All you have to do is watch footage from early in the pandemic. Treefrog May 2021 #178

Agreed. Evolve Dammit May 2021 #75

Who are the unvaxed and unmasked (in majority)? Justice matters. May 2021 #133

The percentage of people not fully vaxed is way more than that. boston bean May 2021 #134

Those who truly want the vaccines are perhaps on the way to get them. Justice matters. May 2021 #144

I'll go with President Biden on this... VarryOn May 2021 #39

Agree 100%. beaglelover May 2021 #42

I hate wearing one. boston bean May 2021 #43

I'm with you...but... VarryOn May 2021 #52

I disagree. Yavin4 May 2021 #44

Think it all the way through... Woodycall May 2021 #47

Why are you thinking I am anti science. My views are on solid science ground. boston bean May 2021 #50

Not aimed at you personally Woodycall May 2021 #87

The M$M and those same doctors who told us last year that we didn't need masks... Kahuna May 2021 #49

I'm fine with this ... FarPoint May 2021 #57

I don't agree. IMO Joe Biden made a good, rational, common sense decision. Baked Potato May 2021 #58

Interesting, balanced article from Gizmodo on this topic EarlG May 2021 #65

Hi earl I appreciate the article. But this is not about the already vaxed. boston bean May 2021 #77

I understand EarlG May 2021 #91

Because children and immunocompromised. boston bean May 2021 #95

Children and the immunocompromised will continue to mask EarlG May 2021 #105

I,agree on the science. I do not agree with the timing. boston bean May 2021 #108

I hear you EarlG May 2021 #115

I am in MA. And I had covid and I had Moderna x2. I am sure I am safe. boston bean May 2021 #120

The numbers are down because of the mask mandates. sheshe2 May 2021 #220

Those who refuse to get vaccinated Sur Zobra May 2021 #192

+1. Also, the CDC just clarified that K-12 schools should maintain mask requirements for everyone dalton99a May 2021 #84

That's the right call because under 12s can't get vaxxed yet EarlG May 2021 #92

Also +1. This step toward normality is possible because of competent government Hortensis May 2021 #203

I agree Skittles May 2021 #73

There needed to be a benefit for getting the vaccine Lettuce Be May 2021 #79

Problem is, they just gave people a reason Mr.Bill May 2021 #90

99% of those people are never getting vaccinated. Ace Rothstein May 2021 #100

Make them wear masks, don't allow them on public transportation, Mr.Bill May 2021 #104

The rest of us don't need to continue going out of our way in the meantime. Ace Rothstein May 2021 #106

I do not believe that to be the case. boston bean May 2021 #107

I believe they have more conculsive studies then we have read FloridaBlues May 2021 #80

You really don't want COVID to end, do you? Ace Rothstein May 2021 #94

Ridiculous. boston bean May 2021 #97

Very true! beaglelover May 2021 #147

Hey, Ace. sheshe2 May 2021 #223

I agree rockfordfile May 2021 #96

My daughter, Sascha, was quoted in this AP article (below) on masking. She was a Biden delegate deurbano May 2021 #103

Thank you Sascha! H2O Man May 2021 #112

Still dweller May 2021 #109

My gods, people, just chill out. THIS is what you are all going to throw Biden under the bus for? Hekate May 2021 #119

Anyone not vaccinated by now eissa May 2021 #125

What percentage of anti vax people are ther in the US? Do you know? boston bean May 2021 #126

WaPo says Biden was not informed of the decision/announcement or involved in it? Grasswire2 May 2021 #129

I can't read the article, but if this was the case I am appalled. boston bean May 2021 #131

I can't at the moment either. Grasswire2 May 2021 #136

"error not deliberate" the person who read it said to me. nt Grasswire2 May 2021 #138

In what way was it wrong? boston bean May 2021 #141

we need someone to post excerpt here nt Grasswire2 May 2021 #145

I just finished reading this article 10 mins appalachiablue May 2021 #143

Can u cut and paste it for us? boston bean May 2021 #148

Partial, no space for the full 'timeline' & extras: appalachiablue May 2021 #157

thank you Grasswire2 May 2021 #158

The CDC appears to be basing decisions on science. Blue_true May 2021 #149

Fully support this move. GulfCoast66 May 2021 #155

Partially agree, but since the President wasn't TraceNC May 2021 #169

the CDC isn't in the business of social punishment fescuerescue May 2021 #175

I agree the CDC messaging on this is terrible. The federal government has NEVER issued SweetieD May 2021 #197

Breaking news BannonsLiver May 2021 #200

Not about feelings, but the science... JCMach1 May 2021 #204

This is what people don't want to hear. SoonerPride May 2021 #214

What the CDC said vs. what many people hear DBoon May 2021 #205

If infection rates climb it will be among the unvaccinated SoonerPride May 2021 #213

I hate to see stupid mean people die DBoon May 2021 #215

Yeah it's a real crying shame of natural selection. SoonerPride May 2021 #219