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Rstrstx

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48. AAAANND how are dying legacy auto makers profitable?

Sat May 29, 2021, 03:00 AM

May 2021

Oh that’s right, by selling customers vastly overpriced gas-guzzling giant-ass trucks and SUVs, which require regular expensive maintenance at their shops (the ONLY way they’re profitable). Plus they keep the government subsidized petroleum industry going full throttle while it keeps choking the planet. So hey if that’s your thing, have at it!

Sorry for being a bit sarcastic, but Tesla on the whole has done way more good than harm by shaking up the auto industry, and their prices for the 3 and Y are very much in line with other new EVs with similar specs. Otherwise the auto industry would be dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st century if they didn’t have any real competition (many companies like Fiat and some Japanese auto makers are still acting like if they just close their eyes this will all just go away, just crank out a few token compliance cars to keep California and Europe happy).

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What happens when an electric car runs out of power on the road? [View all] brush May 2021 OP

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Yes. ShazzieB May 2021 #18

Now that's a great feature. brush May 2021 #21

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The Tesla navigation and A Better Route Planner app Ninga May 2021 #55

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A hybrid. sprinkleeninow May 2021 #23

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AAAANND how are dying legacy auto makers profitable? Rstrstx May 2021 #48

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I added the "no jokes please" because the first two responses were just that. brush May 2021 #78

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