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Solomon

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89. No. It doesn't.

Reply to GoCubsGo (Reply #30)

Sun Jun 6, 2021, 06:39 PM

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Maher calls college a 'grift,' compares it to Scientology [View all] Klaralven Jun 2021 OP

Maher isn't a liberal; he's basically a libertarian Ocelot II Jun 2021 #1

Who Donated Millions To Obama & The DNC? ProfessorGAC Jun 2021 #17

Is that like buying a papal indulgence in the Middle Ages? ChrisF1961 Jun 2021 #26

On donating: "In 2012, I did this but this is different. That was for my country and I thought it betsuni Jun 2021 #28

So? ChrisF1961 Jun 2021 #49

Interesting analogy given he also used that one in his monologue. Behind the Aegis Jun 2021 #36

Liberal because he says so, regardless of behavior? Come on. Hortensis Jun 2021 #87

What behavior specifically are you talking about? betsuni Jun 2021 #90

He isn't a libertarian. Here he discusses this with Penn Jillette, a real Libertarian: betsuni Jun 2021 #46

Then maybe he's just an asshole who says stupid stuff. Ocelot II Jun 2021 #48

So, did he give Cornell back his degree? GoCubsGo Jun 2021 #2

Pot doesn't turn a person's brain to mush Mysterian Jun 2021 #15

If you do enough of it, it does. GoCubsGo Jun 2021 #30

No. It doesn't. Solomon Jun 2021 #89

ask him if he wants his lawyers to go to law school qazplm135 Jun 2021 #3

He says college is unnecessary for MOST job Shermann Jun 2021 #7

College gives a foundation, but most learning, in medical, legal, finance, plumbing, etc. is OTJ TheBlackAdder Jun 2021 #10

A broader education gives those students a better chance to understand our empedocles Jun 2021 #19

+1000 smirkymonkey Jun 2021 #34

Excellent explanation StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #50

agreed qazplm135 Jun 2021 #56

accounting is a degree qazplm135 Jun 2021 #22

Clearly Maher's message has resonated with some here Shermann Jun 2021 #47

Most employers treat a 4-year degree like a H.S. diploma. Without it you'll never get an interview. TheBlackAdder Jun 2021 #53

So this is your defense of the system? Shermann Jun 2021 #71

OK fix it. Oh, that's right, it can't be fixed. If you can't, this talk is just academic 🤣 TheBlackAdder Jun 2021 #76

Exactly! Shermann Jun 2021 #77

This discussion should probably move to HR people as there are best practices and metrics they use. TheBlackAdder Jun 2021 #88

sure, there's an element qazplm135 Jun 2021 #55

There are two fallacies to unpack here Shermann Jun 2021 #69

Yeah we do know qazplm135 Jun 2021 #82

Actually it is data Shermann Jun 2021 #83

People complaining qazplm135 Jun 2021 #84

FACT: Since 1985, the average cost of college has risen 500% Shermann Jun 2021 #85

which is probably why qazplm135 Jun 2021 #86

Bad comparison. But there is a problem with more focus on status JI7 Jun 2021 #4

Besides nepotism, isn't that how the corporate ladder works too? You have to pay your 'dues.' TheBlackAdder Jun 2021 #5

It's not scientology. It's another layer of growth before one takes on adult jobs ... marble falls Jun 2021 #6

Trump is more like Scientology & Mormonism. He self-anointed and only one who can read gold scrolls. TheBlackAdder Jun 2021 #8

I agree with Bill on this. College and Universities should be for those that want to be academics. Yavin4 Jun 2021 #9

I totally agree. betsuni Jun 2021 #12

Went to Boston U for two years before deciding I'd be better off on the G.I.Bill. Grokenstein Jun 2021 #13

Totally agree. nt Raine Jun 2021 #21

so you want high school for two more years qazplm135 Jun 2021 #23

Currently, undergraduate programs prepare you for....graduate programs, not careers. Yavin4 Jun 2021 #31

that's not remotely true qazplm135 Jun 2021 #37

We've created a system where we force people to get undergrad degrees for those careers. Yavin4 Jun 2021 #42

no qazplm135 Jun 2021 #57

Most of the industrialized and developing world emphasize vocational based training Yavin4 Jun 2021 #60

Your statement about "vocational law school" makes no sense. Manifestor_of_Light Jun 2021 #24

Did you miss the part where I wrote that you would apprentice after 4 years of vocational law school Yavin4 Jun 2021 #32

only the biggest law firms can afford to take on qazplm135 Jun 2021 #39

Did you read where I wrote this? Yavin4 Jun 2021 #44

how is any of that qazplm135 Jun 2021 #51

Dude, if you believe that people with law degrees are doing well... Yavin4 Jun 2021 #63

The average salary qazplm135 Jun 2021 #65

Again, you're using averages. If I average my net worth with Jeff Bezos', I'd be one of the richest Yavin4 Jun 2021 #68

I'm averaging qazplm135 Jun 2021 #81

High school should NOT be extended . But they do need to focus more on different types JI7 Jun 2021 #27

By the way, speaking of high school being extended two years, I heard Jonathan Haidt betsuni Jun 2021 #29

We already have a bunch of idiots who have no knowledge of history or concept of civic duty jcgoldie Jun 2021 #43

There are people that went to college with no knowledge of history or concept of civic duty Yavin4 Jun 2021 #45

That has nothing to do with whether someone went to College . JI7 Jun 2021 #54

well its pretty much the core concept of liberal arts education jcgoldie Jun 2021 #58

Yes, and that can still happen . But like I said the problem with it today is not about people JI7 Jun 2021 #59

I agree. Now it's not about the education, it's about the name of the school on the diploma. betsuni Jun 2021 #11

Well said. Behind the Aegis Jun 2021 #41

And I wonder how much these type of things add to the costs. Similar to how new editions of text JI7 Jun 2021 #62

To this day I still don't know what "creative writing" is. betsuni Jun 2021 #64

EXACTLY 👍 nt Raine Jun 2021 #67

$58,000 a year / (2 semesters * 16 weeks/semester * 20 hours instruction / wk) equals $90.62 / hour Klaralven Jun 2021 #79

An idiot Meowmee Jun 2021 #14

Heartily agree Sympthsical Jun 2021 #16

They Waited Until The End... ProfessorGAC Jun 2021 #18

Why the hell does anybody pay attention to this asshole anymore? Paladin Jun 2021 #20

What a zero of a person. 'Wouldn't waste one second on what he thinks. Peregrine Took Jun 2021 #25

I went to college for four years. PlanetBev Jun 2021 #33

I didn't go through college until about 10 years after high school Silent3 Jun 2021 #38

I'd say it's half true Silent3 Jun 2021 #35

I'd agree some people aren't "compatible" with college Shermann Jun 2021 #72

The memory thing! betsuni Jun 2021 #74

Fuck Bill Maher jcgoldie Jun 2021 #40

Liberal comedian? Maher is neither liberal nor funny -- Hekate Jun 2021 #52

He says some really stupid things. nt RegularJam Jun 2021 #61

I'm glad I went to college and that it was affordable at the time. tenderfoot Jun 2021 #66

Higher education has morphed from educating to profiteering and people have been brainwashed Vinca Jun 2021 #70

The moments when I realized I may have been grifted Shermann Jun 2021 #73

Then there's the whole graduation rate issue Shermann Jun 2021 #75

Sometimes Bill is funny. H2O Man Jun 2021 #78

We should be paying people to go to college and trade schools... hunter Jun 2021 #80