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21. Another thing that stymied the insurrection was they counted on

Sat Jun 12, 2021, 08:18 PM

Jun 2021

BLM and the left to be there to counter their demonstration, so there could be a big mess up and it would make it hard to tell on whose side people were on. The left did not give that to them, thus made it difficult for Trump to use the insurrection act to bring in military. I do think they were open about them going to the capitol, hoping to have counter protesters, instead their open social media is putting them all in prison.

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How serious was the "attempted coup" against our government? [View all] kentuck Jun 2021 OP

Came real close. Texaswitchy Jun 2021 #1

It didn't come close FBaggins Jun 2021 #2

They could have burned that building to the ground and Mr.Bill Jun 2021 #5

remember the noose outside? azureblue Jun 2021 #56

That gallows was nothing but a prop. Mr.Bill Jun 2021 #61

Whether or not it was functional and could have been used Mad_Machine76 Jun 2021 #94

Exactly. That's why I called it a prop. Mr.Bill Jun 2021 #100

It doesn't matter if it didn't come close. hot2na Jun 2021 #13

Of course it matters FBaggins Jun 2021 #24

I think it kinda did. AnrothElf Jun 2021 #17

Donald Trump dreaming something doesn't make it a reality FBaggins Jun 2021 #27

Yes, they fucking did bring guns. AnrothElf Jun 2021 #60

an attempted coup is an attempted coup azureblue Jun 2021 #53

Are we supposed to believe you or our lying eyes? They were seconds away from congress members they uponit7771 Jun 2021 #75

Murdering a congressman or even the VP... FBaggins Jun 2021 #85

Oh puh-lease FBaggins Jun 2021 #3

A lot of people could have died. Texaswitchy Jun 2021 #4

A small military unit like the NG? BGBD Jun 2021 #6

DEM. PARTY - BI-PARTISANSHIP IS " DEAD " -LEARN-ADJUST- APPLY ! NOT HARD ! monkeyman1 Jun 2021 #7

Stop, none of this was going to happen..... Jon King Jun 2021 #8

Yes, the above is an excellent post....Please read above Jon King post number 8. Stuart G Jun 2021 #10

Agreed that it probably wouldn't have succeeded, but that doesn't mean Trump wouldn't try. Gaugamela Jun 2021 #14

Well stated!! PortTack Jun 2021 #42

So yeah military leaders did participate in slowing down the national guard response. If telling ... uponit7771 Jun 2021 #76

+1 DashOneBravo Jun 2021 #91

Makes me shiver Joinfortmill Jun 2021 #9

It seems all it would have taken is for the mob to seize hostages and Trump would have invoked Gaugamela Jun 2021 #11

If Trump had told the military to "stand down" until Congress "resolved the issue"... kentuck Jun 2021 #16

Yep. I suspect there were multiple ways to play it. Trump's MO is to create chaos and then Gaugamela Jun 2021 #20

Exactly! kentuck Jun 2021 #23

It also explains the bombs planted at the RNC and DNC headquarters. Had these been detonated Gaugamela Jun 2021 #33

Except absolutely NO support from the military...which you absolutely have to have PortTack Jun 2021 #47

The issue is not whether it would have worked, but whether Trump would have tried it. And if Gaugamela Jun 2021 #55

Look at the video clip in post #47. Mark Milley was very clear he would not have issued any such PortTack Jun 2021 #63

I respect the military brass, but when push comes to shove I do not think they would disobey a Gaugamela Jun 2021 #69

The key word being "lawful" Mad_Machine76 Jun 2021 #95

This is false a flag officer has already testified the military slowed down the national guard of DC uponit7771 Jun 2021 #78

I think that is what they were anticipating. Capitol Security prevented it. Despite the roadblocks. Evolve Dammit Jun 2021 #38

I think they were already standing down, if not for the MD governor sending in his National Guard? kentuck Jun 2021 #39

I defer to your knowledge of the specifics. We need a complete and thorough investigation. Evolve Dammit Jun 2021 #48

I would agree that we need a thorough investigation... kentuck Jun 2021 #51

the truth would be most inconvenient to a traitorous party Evolve Dammit Jun 2021 #89

YES !!! Because the mayor and no one else had control of DC national guard at that time uponit7771 Jun 2021 #79

Also remember that but for the actions of a few flotsam Jun 2021 #70

A very good point. kentuck Jun 2021 #72

RIGHT !! uponit7771 Jun 2021 #99

THIS !!!! ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾, People want to blind themselves to how close we came to no democracy uponit7771 Jun 2021 #77

Yes, that is an accurate render of the insurrection bucolic_frolic Jun 2021 #12

great post. Hope the truth does more than leak out. Evolve Dammit Jun 2021 #40

It was very serious. David__77 Jun 2021 #15

They won't fail next time. If there is a next time. Crunchy Frog Jun 2021 #18

If they ever get their hands on all the levers of government again, we are fucked. bottomofthehill Jun 2021 #30

As far as I know, Trump still hasn't conceded nor wished Biden well. rgbecker Jun 2021 #19

Another thing that stymied the insurrection was they counted on Bev54 Jun 2021 #21

Totally correct. The ability to blame others was not there. bottomofthehill Jun 2021 #28

If the scenario you describe played out, and held, right now we would have President Pelosi. Fiendish Thingy Jun 2021 #22

If not for the Metropolitan Police showing up to assist the Capitol Police in holding the line bottomofthehill Jun 2021 #25

The MD Governor, a Republican, was another hero in this attempted coup... kentuck Jun 2021 #31

If his present scenario plays out... kentuck Jun 2021 #26

It was not a threat to our democracy Johnny2X2X Jun 2021 #29

Exactly PortTack Jun 2021 #50

I disagree, they were seconds away from murdering senators until the one guard uponit7771 Jun 2021 #80

And how would that have changed the election? Johnny2X2X Jun 2021 #86

They were not "constitutionalists". kentuck Jun 2021 #87

And that still wouldn't have been a coup Johnny2X2X Jun 2021 #88

Definition of a "coup" kentuck Jun 2021 #92

Yeah, we were nowhere near that Johnny2X2X Jun 2021 #93

They didn't have to change it just delay it, I don't know what peoples problems are with 1/6 uponit7771 Jun 2021 #96

Whoa not taking it seriously? Johnny2X2X Jun 2021 #97

It didn't have to be close, that's not taking it seriously to set what happened up to fail a false uponit7771 Jun 2021 #98

I think, therefore I am tiptonic Jun 2021 #32

Actually, I am therefore I am. gab13by13 Jun 2021 #36

From the very beginning... kentuck Jun 2021 #37

Everyone is looking at this rationally, gab13by13 Jun 2021 #34

you could very well be correct. It was very close, and the traitors need to be locked up. Evolve Dammit Jun 2021 #45

The constitution CLEARLY states frump's term in office would have ended on 1/20/2021 regardless PortTack Jun 2021 #58

the scene at Lafayette Park had such an impact stillcool Jun 2021 #35

Sorry, but occupying the Capitol wouldn't have stopped the count brooklynite Jun 2021 #41

It would have been like herding cats... kentuck Jun 2021 #44

McConnell was happy to go on with the count. He wouldn't have blocked it somewhere else brooklynite Jun 2021 #49

You mean like Jeb Bush? gab13by13 Jun 2021 #54

Blocking the count would have ended up with An interim President..President Pelosi PortTack Jun 2021 #59

You are absolutely correct, gab13by13 Jun 2021 #52

Also, if something had happened to Mike Pence or Nancy Pelosi.... kentuck Jun 2021 #57

house majority leader Steny Hoyer would have taken her place as he is #2 PortTack Jun 2021 #66

Murdering Congress members would have though, they are testifying that with their intention uponit7771 Jun 2021 #81

doesn't it make you cringe a bit to write: "In hindsight, VP Pence was somewhat of a hero" orleans Jun 2021 #43

Yes, as a matter of fact, it does make me cringe to write such a thing... kentuck Jun 2021 #46

I think that Speaker Pelosi was the real hero. gab13by13 Jun 2021 #62

It was planned, but not "well-"planned, and it was, in fact, amateurish. That's why it failed. JHB Jun 2021 #64

The military wouldnt follow unlawful orders oldsoftie Jun 2021 #65

The military was involved in slowing down the response to the DC national guard. uponit7771 Jun 2021 #82

Extremely close! and still very dangerous as you have Trumpers/ politicians still PA_jen Jun 2021 #67

What eats at me is that it would not have taken a very large well-armed suppression force... BobTheSubgenius Jun 2021 #68

If not for the heroic efforts of the Capitol Police... kentuck Jun 2021 #73

Hey, be careful here. Ligyron Jun 2021 #71

While it was serious, it didn't look like they have talked for years. LiberatedUSA Jun 2021 #74

Their intentions was to murder Congress person so they couldn't certify the election... uponit7771 Jun 2021 #83

It was and is a very serious matter. It was a coup attempt orchestrated by the Trump admin UCmeNdc Jun 2021 #84

I believe the military would have ultimately disobeyed him. KentuckyWoman Jun 2021 #90

It was ragtag like everything the Thing tried. But it was very serious mvd Jun 2021 #101