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30. If they ever get their hands on all the levers of government again, we are fucked.

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Sat Jun 12, 2021, 08:37 PM

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How serious was the "attempted coup" against our government? [View all] kentuck Jun 2021 OP

Came real close. Texaswitchy Jun 2021 #1

It didn't come close FBaggins Jun 2021 #2

They could have burned that building to the ground and Mr.Bill Jun 2021 #5

remember the noose outside? azureblue Jun 2021 #56

That gallows was nothing but a prop. Mr.Bill Jun 2021 #61

Whether or not it was functional and could have been used Mad_Machine76 Jun 2021 #94

Exactly. That's why I called it a prop. Mr.Bill Jun 2021 #100

It doesn't matter if it didn't come close. hot2na Jun 2021 #13

Of course it matters FBaggins Jun 2021 #24

I think it kinda did. AnrothElf Jun 2021 #17

Donald Trump dreaming something doesn't make it a reality FBaggins Jun 2021 #27

Yes, they fucking did bring guns. AnrothElf Jun 2021 #60

an attempted coup is an attempted coup azureblue Jun 2021 #53

Are we supposed to believe you or our lying eyes? They were seconds away from congress members they uponit7771 Jun 2021 #75

Murdering a congressman or even the VP... FBaggins Jun 2021 #85

Oh puh-lease FBaggins Jun 2021 #3

A lot of people could have died. Texaswitchy Jun 2021 #4

A small military unit like the NG? BGBD Jun 2021 #6

DEM. PARTY - BI-PARTISANSHIP IS " DEAD " -LEARN-ADJUST- APPLY ! NOT HARD ! monkeyman1 Jun 2021 #7

Stop, none of this was going to happen..... Jon King Jun 2021 #8

Yes, the above is an excellent post....Please read above Jon King post number 8. Stuart G Jun 2021 #10

Agreed that it probably wouldn't have succeeded, but that doesn't mean Trump wouldn't try. Gaugamela Jun 2021 #14

Well stated!! PortTack Jun 2021 #42

So yeah military leaders did participate in slowing down the national guard response. If telling ... uponit7771 Jun 2021 #76

+1 DashOneBravo Jun 2021 #91

Makes me shiver Joinfortmill Jun 2021 #9

It seems all it would have taken is for the mob to seize hostages and Trump would have invoked Gaugamela Jun 2021 #11

If Trump had told the military to "stand down" until Congress "resolved the issue"... kentuck Jun 2021 #16

Yep. I suspect there were multiple ways to play it. Trump's MO is to create chaos and then Gaugamela Jun 2021 #20

Exactly! kentuck Jun 2021 #23

It also explains the bombs planted at the RNC and DNC headquarters. Had these been detonated Gaugamela Jun 2021 #33

Except absolutely NO support from the military...which you absolutely have to have PortTack Jun 2021 #47

The issue is not whether it would have worked, but whether Trump would have tried it. And if Gaugamela Jun 2021 #55

Look at the video clip in post #47. Mark Milley was very clear he would not have issued any such PortTack Jun 2021 #63

I respect the military brass, but when push comes to shove I do not think they would disobey a Gaugamela Jun 2021 #69

The key word being "lawful" Mad_Machine76 Jun 2021 #95

This is false a flag officer has already testified the military slowed down the national guard of DC uponit7771 Jun 2021 #78

I think that is what they were anticipating. Capitol Security prevented it. Despite the roadblocks. Evolve Dammit Jun 2021 #38

I think they were already standing down, if not for the MD governor sending in his National Guard? kentuck Jun 2021 #39

I defer to your knowledge of the specifics. We need a complete and thorough investigation. Evolve Dammit Jun 2021 #48

I would agree that we need a thorough investigation... kentuck Jun 2021 #51

the truth would be most inconvenient to a traitorous party Evolve Dammit Jun 2021 #89

YES !!! Because the mayor and no one else had control of DC national guard at that time uponit7771 Jun 2021 #79

Also remember that but for the actions of a few flotsam Jun 2021 #70

A very good point. kentuck Jun 2021 #72

RIGHT !! uponit7771 Jun 2021 #99

THIS !!!! ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾, People want to blind themselves to how close we came to no democracy uponit7771 Jun 2021 #77

Yes, that is an accurate render of the insurrection bucolic_frolic Jun 2021 #12

great post. Hope the truth does more than leak out. Evolve Dammit Jun 2021 #40

It was very serious. David__77 Jun 2021 #15

They won't fail next time. If there is a next time. Crunchy Frog Jun 2021 #18

If they ever get their hands on all the levers of government again, we are fucked. bottomofthehill Jun 2021 #30

As far as I know, Trump still hasn't conceded nor wished Biden well. rgbecker Jun 2021 #19

Another thing that stymied the insurrection was they counted on Bev54 Jun 2021 #21

Totally correct. The ability to blame others was not there. bottomofthehill Jun 2021 #28

If the scenario you describe played out, and held, right now we would have President Pelosi. Fiendish Thingy Jun 2021 #22

If not for the Metropolitan Police showing up to assist the Capitol Police in holding the line bottomofthehill Jun 2021 #25

The MD Governor, a Republican, was another hero in this attempted coup... kentuck Jun 2021 #31

If his present scenario plays out... kentuck Jun 2021 #26

It was not a threat to our democracy Johnny2X2X Jun 2021 #29

Exactly PortTack Jun 2021 #50

I disagree, they were seconds away from murdering senators until the one guard uponit7771 Jun 2021 #80

And how would that have changed the election? Johnny2X2X Jun 2021 #86

They were not "constitutionalists". kentuck Jun 2021 #87

And that still wouldn't have been a coup Johnny2X2X Jun 2021 #88

Definition of a "coup" kentuck Jun 2021 #92

Yeah, we were nowhere near that Johnny2X2X Jun 2021 #93

They didn't have to change it just delay it, I don't know what peoples problems are with 1/6 uponit7771 Jun 2021 #96

Whoa not taking it seriously? Johnny2X2X Jun 2021 #97

It didn't have to be close, that's not taking it seriously to set what happened up to fail a false uponit7771 Jun 2021 #98

I think, therefore I am tiptonic Jun 2021 #32

Actually, I am therefore I am. gab13by13 Jun 2021 #36

From the very beginning... kentuck Jun 2021 #37

Everyone is looking at this rationally, gab13by13 Jun 2021 #34

you could very well be correct. It was very close, and the traitors need to be locked up. Evolve Dammit Jun 2021 #45

The constitution CLEARLY states frump's term in office would have ended on 1/20/2021 regardless PortTack Jun 2021 #58

the scene at Lafayette Park had such an impact stillcool Jun 2021 #35

Sorry, but occupying the Capitol wouldn't have stopped the count brooklynite Jun 2021 #41

It would have been like herding cats... kentuck Jun 2021 #44

McConnell was happy to go on with the count. He wouldn't have blocked it somewhere else brooklynite Jun 2021 #49

You mean like Jeb Bush? gab13by13 Jun 2021 #54

Blocking the count would have ended up with An interim President..President Pelosi PortTack Jun 2021 #59

You are absolutely correct, gab13by13 Jun 2021 #52

Also, if something had happened to Mike Pence or Nancy Pelosi.... kentuck Jun 2021 #57

house majority leader Steny Hoyer would have taken her place as he is #2 PortTack Jun 2021 #66

Murdering Congress members would have though, they are testifying that with their intention uponit7771 Jun 2021 #81

doesn't it make you cringe a bit to write: "In hindsight, VP Pence was somewhat of a hero" orleans Jun 2021 #43

Yes, as a matter of fact, it does make me cringe to write such a thing... kentuck Jun 2021 #46

I think that Speaker Pelosi was the real hero. gab13by13 Jun 2021 #62

It was planned, but not "well-"planned, and it was, in fact, amateurish. That's why it failed. JHB Jun 2021 #64

The military wouldnt follow unlawful orders oldsoftie Jun 2021 #65

The military was involved in slowing down the response to the DC national guard. uponit7771 Jun 2021 #82

Extremely close! and still very dangerous as you have Trumpers/ politicians still PA_jen Jun 2021 #67

What eats at me is that it would not have taken a very large well-armed suppression force... BobTheSubgenius Jun 2021 #68

If not for the heroic efforts of the Capitol Police... kentuck Jun 2021 #73

Hey, be careful here. Ligyron Jun 2021 #71

While it was serious, it didn't look like they have talked for years. LiberatedUSA Jun 2021 #74

Their intentions was to murder Congress person so they couldn't certify the election... uponit7771 Jun 2021 #83

It was and is a very serious matter. It was a coup attempt orchestrated by the Trump admin UCmeNdc Jun 2021 #84

I believe the military would have ultimately disobeyed him. KentuckyWoman Jun 2021 #90

It was ragtag like everything the Thing tried. But it was very serious mvd Jun 2021 #101