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Reply to obamanut2012 (Reply #48)

Thu Jul 1, 2021, 02:03 PM

Jul 2021

I'm not going to go into specifics of my family life or upbringing or the contributing factors. My mother had her own demons to deal with and part of that was what could very accurately fit the description of misandry. It has had a lifelong affect on me.

I don't think that makes me oppressed as a man. It doesn't discount the evils of misogyny in our society. It doesn't mean that there are the same structural and institutional bias against men that exist against women. But it also doesn't mean that there are some people who, for a variety of reasons, hate men or that there are men who suffer because of that hate.

If you have not experienced this in your lifetime, consider yourself lucky, but, before you "lolz" next time, don't discount the experience of those who have.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] abqtommy Jul 2021 OP

Wonder how many words for hate there are in each of the worlds most widely spoken languages? Klaralven Jul 2021 #1

First, I'd like to award you The Ribbon Of Sanity for this thread. I have the url of a website abqtommy Jul 2021 #32

The number of words for love might also be of interest. Klaralven Jul 2021 #43

That's a good thought. abqtommy Jul 2021 #53

You want to fix misandry? boston bean Jul 2021 #64

Not necessarily. There's a lot of people that deserve to be hated. I just wanted to define it. abqtommy Jul 2021 #75

You wanted to define it. Why? Didn't the dictionary already do that for you? boston bean Jul 2021 #82

Misandry was a popular bullshit word here for a while. Why I started commenting and stopped lurking. betsuni Jul 2021 #2

If It's Any Consolation... ProfessorGAC Jul 2021 #9

I just glanced around there for the first time EYESORE 9001 Jul 2021 #11

Lumberjack Jeff and a bunch of them. But he is gone from here now and he was insufferable. boston bean Jul 2021 #103

I forgot all about that sexist jerk Metatron Jul 2021 #106

The one I hated most named himself after an ape. Lied about leaving the U.S. betsuni Jul 2021 #107

Bonobo? hlthe2b Jul 2021 #111

Yes. betsuni Jul 2021 #114

That group should never have been allowed obamanut2012 Jul 2021 #17

Ayup. Still not over it. As it still exists in some form, as displayed by this OP. Out of the blue boston bean Jul 2021 #62

There are a lot of groups that wouldn't be proud of their old posts from the late 20 aughts..... BradAllison Jul 2021 #104

Yes... It was amazing the amount of perceived victimization there. hlthe2b Jul 2021 #110

The day after a male serial rapist is released from prison boston bean Jul 2021 #3

+1 zuul Jul 2021 #4

+1 mercuryblues Jul 2021 #7

+1000 smirkymonkey Jul 2021 #24

+1 LizBeth Jul 2021 #37

Let's go all caps MISOGYNY. we can do it Jul 2021 #41

Misandry is the same as straight pride obamanut2012 Jul 2021 #5

Word used by MRA's to try and shut up any woman who uriel1972 Jul 2021 #6

Misandry: a word used by closeted MRA morons that outs them Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #8

or should it be "misterandry"? Bucky Jul 2021 #10

Interesting responses so far. I had to look up the acronym MRA since I'm obviously late to abqtommy Jul 2021 #12

Lolz obamanut2012 Jul 2021 #13

MRA's are to women uriel1972 Jul 2021 #14

Hot topic on DU circa spring of 2014. Mister Ed Jul 2021 #15

Understanding the broader context of today's by election helps with understanding lapucelle Jul 2021 #16

Thank you for pointing that out; the good news is that Jo Cox's sister won muriel_volestrangler Jul 2021 #105

And thank you for sharing the news about Kim Leadbeater winning and Labor holding that seat. lapucelle Jul 2021 #108

You should take a gander at the incel forums as well. ismnotwasm Jul 2021 #27

Educate thyself. boston bean Jul 2021 #31

'Why I had no idea' Ohio Joe Jul 2021 #57

You do not see why black people might hate? I do not see how a black person would not hate. LizBeth Jul 2021 #58

It isn't about "free from hatred" or "approval". It is about power and attribution. Caliman73 Jul 2021 #126

"Misandry" is a word that drew my interest so I defined it. Whatever people decide to do abqtommy Jul 2021 #129

Hey, thank you. This is a very clear and concise post. You said it well. LizBeth Jul 2021 #131

Do you usually select a Word Of The Day? WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2021 #18

Especially one routinely used by bigots? obamanut2012 Jul 2021 #19

. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2021 #20

Misandry and misogny, both wrong. Sneederbunk Jul 2021 #21

lolz obamanut2012 Jul 2021 #22

So what is your rule? treestar Jul 2021 #25

As I understand it, mysogeny is sexism directed at women and to me all sexism is wrong and abqtommy Jul 2021 #30

Because it is not a thing. boston bean Jul 2021 #33

Ok but it does not justify hating men treestar Jul 2021 #38

I want to hear the argument of blacks just hating whites out of hand or white cops out of hand to LizBeth Jul 2021 #44

It doesn't matter. Regardless of an individual hating all white or all men LizBeth Jul 2021 #46

It. Is. Not. A. Thing. obamanut2012 Jul 2021 #47

Of course it's a thing. Jedi Guy Jul 2021 #109

There is no such thing as misandry obamanut2012 Jul 2021 #34

So as long as you can identify as an oppressed group treestar Jul 2021 #40

That is the gist of it Sympthsical Jul 2021 #45

No, that is not what any of us are saying, and you know it obamanut2012 Jul 2021 #49

It's not Sympthsical Jul 2021 #54

Not saying can't be, saying it does not hold a power and control over groups of others.How they live LizBeth Jul 2021 #56

It does show there is no principle for equality though treestar Jul 2021 #71

No. You dismiss a whole history of male domination and sublimation of women to create where we sit LizBeth Jul 2021 #77

You are in an alternate reality. There are oppressed groups. Defend those groups. boston bean Jul 2021 #78

Your attitude is reckless, though Sympthsical Jul 2021 #121

Surprise, men with an issue also have an issue with women bosses. Reckless? Lol LizBeth Jul 2021 #124

You literally manufactured that out of thin air Sympthsical Jul 2021 #134

You move goalposts more consistently than any poster I'm aware of. LanternWaste Jul 2021 #74

Just put me on ignore then Sympthsical Jul 2021 #123

Give us one example of "misandry" -- just one obamanut2012 Jul 2021 #48

I can Zeitghost Jul 2021 #55

Your mom hated men and that was her reason for being a shitty parent to you? boston bean Jul 2021 #66

How is that impossible? treestar Jul 2021 #72

OVERALL. Women do not have that power of men. However men do have that power in society. boston bean Jul 2021 #76

No feminist has said men are all rapist. Not a one. LizBeth Jul 2021 #79

Here we are. Fighting MRA ideology. boston bean Jul 2021 #80

Yes. LizBeth Jul 2021 #81

I can easily. Sympthsical Jul 2021 #122

No, that isn't misandry -- there si literally NO SUCH THING obamanut2012 Jul 2021 #125

There's no point in discussing further Sympthsical Jul 2021 #133

We are not judging men as a group... uriel1972 Jul 2021 #35

Pain? treestar Jul 2021 #39

Okay, I get your angle now. obamanut2012 Jul 2021 #50

Post removed Post removed Jul 2021 #70

This was a rude response to a very thoughtful and caring post. boston bean Jul 2021 #86

No... Nexus2 Jul 2021 #90

Yes they are. Caliman73 Jul 2021 #127

+1 LizBeth Jul 2021 #132

My selection for Word of the Day... lapucelle Jul 2021 #23

Mansplainers can't comprehend the treestar Jul 2021 #26

Good One! ProfessorGAC Jul 2021 #29

+1 zuul Jul 2021 #28

Going by this flow chart, I've had more women 'mansplain' to me that women. Nexus2 Jul 2021 #89

Might want to proofread this. nt littlemissmartypants Jul 2021 #119

Another rapist walks and you decide we need education on the counter word for men? LizBeth Jul 2021 #36

And? Elessar Zappa Jul 2021 #42

At least locally, the reaction to Cosby's conviction being over turned is really split Nexus2 Jul 2021 #93

Yes, that's what it means. MineralMan Jul 2021 #51

No, MM, it does not exist obamanut2012 Jul 2021 #52

On an individual basis, it does exist, and usually for good reason. MineralMan Jul 2021 #67

You are describing androphobia. boston bean Jul 2021 #69

Isn't that a fear of men, vs a hatred of men? NickB79 Jul 2021 #83

You said for good reason. What would be a good reason? Maybe fearing them? boston bean Jul 2021 #84

Yes, I can see fear morphing into hatred quite easily NickB79 Jul 2021 #87

If they identify a very large and powerful church around for centuries that preached misandry boston bean Jul 2021 #88

Fear and hatred are different things, MineralMan Jul 2021 #99

I also read your words, which I understood and then responded in that context. boston bean Jul 2021 #100

Misanthropy is my word for the day. hunter Jul 2021 #60

Your statement is as true as mine. It just has a different noun as a subject. MineralMan Jul 2021 #68

I can give you two words to summarize my distrust of my species misanthrope Jul 2021 #85

I don't get it. What's your point? Why is this your selection for word of the day? fishwax Jul 2021 #59

It's a new word for me and one of my interests is language and definitions. I did explain it in abqtommy Jul 2021 #73

What's the word for hating trolls? SoonerPride Jul 2021 #61

Trollandry. boston bean Jul 2021 #63

Hahahahaha SoonerPride Jul 2021 #91

Where is there hatred of men in the world ? JI7 Jul 2021 #65

I can only come up with this: betsuni Jul 2021 #92

I've seen and interacted some extreme and I imagine very much fringe so called feminist Nexus2 Jul 2021 #94

Did that harm your earning potential, your self determination of your own body.... For example boston bean Jul 2021 #95

Right? I mean, is this purposeful obtuseness? lol. LizBeth Jul 2021 #97

I remember the day I learned the word excreta. Solly Mack Jul 2021 #96

LMAO! boston bean Jul 2021 #101

kudos! hlthe2b Jul 2021 #112

My word for the day is sealioning ibegurpard Jul 2021 #98

Had to look that up! Now that is a word we can all relate to! boston bean Jul 2021 #102

Sealioning littlemissmartypants Jul 2021 #120

Did you even read the article? Wahyee Jul 2021 #113

Yes I did read the article. That's why I referenced it in my original op. Thank you for reading it abqtommy Jul 2021 #116

How is it relevant to the article you posted? Wahyee Jul 2021 #117

The word "misandry" appeared in the article. It drew my interest so I defined it. I have no abqtommy Jul 2021 #130

This message was self-deleted by its author Wahyee Jul 2021 #118

Then did you note the group that introduced the word? muriel_volestrangler Jul 2021 #128

Before you made this thread... LiberatedUSA Jul 2021 #115

My words of the day: Fragile Masculinity Happy Hoosier Jul 2021 #135