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Magoo48

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21. We will only experience a foreshadowing of suffering our children and grandchildren will navigate.

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I am 72 years old. I have always thought of climate change as a disaster that I would [View all] Atticus Jul 2021 OP

Sadly, this is true for me as well... You spoke for me, Atticus... secondwind Jul 2021 #1

A balmy 64.9F in Antarctica in 2020. Yeah, it's here. nt Phoenix61 Jul 2021 #2

I think it's important for us humans to take steps to stop what we do that adversely affects abqtommy Jul 2021 #3

Post removed Post removed Jul 2021 #11

+1. thing that pisses everyone off stopdiggin Jul 2021 #19

How about the Yellowstone Caldera? If that baby blows it will be PatrickforB Jul 2021 #26

But, PatrickforB, I too am an aging baby boomer, 68, and if there is ever a demographic .... jaxexpat Jul 2021 #49

Ah, a thoughtful response. I still have some small say at the policy level in PatrickforB Jul 2021 #59

I deeply regret that I have never had children.... DemocraticPatriot Jul 2021 #91

And not to forget deliberate governmental misdeeds dianaredwing Jul 2021 #62

You do realize you are insulting all older people with that comment, don't you? NH Ethylene Jul 2021 #37

Yeah and I have voted in every possible election I could since age 18 and McGovern, so, Captain Zero Jul 2021 #84

I was just a few days too young to vote for McGovern. NH Ethylene Jul 2021 #97

on the other hand, the poster in question stopdiggin Jul 2021 #99

and.. what planet are you living on? Eyeball_Kid Jul 2021 #29

I'm living on this planet we call Earth. Science and history tells us that it is 4.5 billion years abqtommy Jul 2021 #48

your argument would be much more palatable stopdiggin Jul 2021 #100

I'm not arguing, I'm stating my OPINION. Your OPINION is fine too, except for the personal abqtommy Jul 2021 #103

Actually there are billions of people I_UndergroundPanther Jul 2021 #89

Thanks for your perspective. What I'm hearing you say is that humans are a problem just by the abqtommy Jul 2021 #93

I love my Othello too much to ever I_UndergroundPanther Jul 2021 #107

I don't blame you, that's a beautiful cat. abqtommy Jul 2021 #109

Thanks. I_UndergroundPanther Jul 2021 #110

I'm a boomer and have to disagree with you dixiegrrrrl Jul 2021 #52

I don't expect everyone to agree with me. Your viewpoint is as valid as mine. Thanks. Oh, and abqtommy Jul 2021 #53

1.True, 2. Wish you were right but clearly you are not. mahina Jul 2021 #85

I'm nearly 71, my grandchildren are actively doing their part... msfiddlestix Jul 2021 #4

I know how you feel. NH Ethylene Jul 2021 #38

Not me. I've watched it evolve for over 50 years, always thought Hortensis Jul 2021 #5

we knew... markie Jul 2021 #7

Greed is certainly a part of it, but it's not the entire story. Jedi Guy Jul 2021 #13

If "human nature" is an obstacle to preserving the ecosphere... Eyeball_Kid Jul 2021 #31

"on the road to extinction" markie Jul 2021 #32

Extinction would be very difficult, to put it mildly. However, nasty setbacks Hortensis Jul 2021 #35

I'm with ya, kiddo. When I feel a little out of sorts I just re-scan my barcode. jaxexpat Jul 2021 #51

Lol, exactly. Protection again foolish charismatic and inimical influences. nt Hortensis Jul 2021 #60

Unbelievably though, Clean Water Act, Clean Air Act, OSHA and hazardous waste laws were passed under Evolve Dammit Jul 2021 #28

Yes. Notably, the League of Conservation Voters keeps records of every Hortensis Jul 2021 #96

In the early 60's folks like Cheney and Rummy were in Congress and voted against Medicare and all Evolve Dammit Jul 2021 #101

Yes. The corruption and cultural degradation on the right Hortensis Jul 2021 #102

They do emulate/ copy their leader whether it's the orange guy or whoever. They are all the crazies Evolve Dammit Jul 2021 #106

"Let me make my money now, hell with the planet, DemocraticPatriot Jul 2021 #92

Indeed malaise Jul 2021 #6

It's scary to see such a dramatic change. NH Ethylene Jul 2021 #40

Precisely malaise Jul 2021 #43

Love reading your posts dianaredwing Jul 2021 #63

I could quote you word for word except for the age thing. Ferrets are Cool Jul 2021 #8

Surprise! Firstly, who'da thought we would live to be 70+. JustABozoOnThisBus Jul 2021 #9

B-b-b-b-baby you ain't seen nothin' yet. Goodheart Jul 2021 #10

Until a hurricane slams into D.C. Javaman Jul 2021 #12

Super Storm Sandy made a big splash on the Eastern Seaboard NH Ethylene Jul 2021 #41

Unfortunately, this is just the beginning. Pobeka Jul 2021 #14

Exactly! Thank you! Duppers Jul 2021 #15

Well...maybe not so much? Moostache Jul 2021 #34

The best post so far misanthrope Jul 2021 #54

and a fine post yourself, too. yonder Jul 2021 #72

I loved that song, Good Heart! Dreampuff Jul 2021 #16

Earth is beginning to resemble Mordor Ponietz Jul 2021 #17

58 degrees this AM in Hendersonville NC. Delightful. and Weird! NewHendoLib Jul 2021 #18

We will only experience a foreshadowing of suffering our children and grandchildren will navigate. Magoo48 Jul 2021 #20

We will only experience a foreshadowing of suffering our children and grandchildren will navigate. Magoo48 Jul 2021 #21

Want to fight climate change? Have fewer children. Duppers Jul 2021 #22

I'm doing my part! smirkymonkey Jul 2021 #33

Zero children (except the 4-legged ones). Vegan. Still have a car and fly very infrequently. CousinIT Jul 2021 #47

I'm not certain that leaving all the childbearing Crunchy Frog Jul 2021 #65

Good point, but ... Duppers Jul 2021 #71

Most of all of our forebears were uneducated and religiously insane. Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #94

What we need is a worldwide, one child policy. roamer65 Jul 2021 #77

Exactly! Duppers Jul 2021 #78

I most certainly disagree! Backseat Driver Jul 2021 #88

After watching the COVID pandemic & events of last year juxtaposed next to climate change events, Pachamama Jul 2021 #23

Humans will survive but Elessar Zappa Jul 2021 #24

Civilization will also survive. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2021 #50

I will write the same reply to you that I wrote to the poster you were responding to. StevieM Jul 2021 #113

That is not at all clear. StevieM Jul 2021 #112

It's all there misanthrope Jul 2021 #114

George Carlin - circa 1982 Moostache Jul 2021 #36

This year in spring in Indiana it started raining almost every night Captain Zero Jul 2021 #86

I agree I_UndergroundPanther Jul 2021 #111

It is the wages of living in a world where the people that call the shots believe Chainfire Jul 2021 #25

To be fair to the cretins at the top... Moostache Jul 2021 #39

Generation Z Elessar Zappa Jul 2021 #27

I share your grief jmbar2 Jul 2021 #30

If you look at human history misanthrope Jul 2021 #56

Likewise, tho I was finishing my undergrad work at the same time you were starting... Hekate Jul 2021 #57

Worldwide indeed TexasBushwhacker Jul 2021 #80

There have been scientists that have done a lot of hard work from every generation chowder66 Jul 2021 #104

I'm 70. I'm a pessimistic realist. Another Jackalope Jul 2021 #42

This is why I've been ambivalent cagefreesoylentgreen Jul 2021 #44

Very likely hyperinflation will destroy it. roamer65 Jul 2021 #82

Yep. Snackshack Jul 2021 #45

I have a sister with the same attitude. With climate change, social security...all of that ... CousinIT Jul 2021 #46

Same age as you, exactly the same thoughts. ... Hekate Jul 2021 #55

I'm also 72 and grateful not to have children or grandchildren to inherit the mess we're leaving. Vinca Jul 2021 #58

I feel horrified for my first grandchild. sellitman Jul 2021 #61

I chose not to have kids when I was very young. BigmanPigman Jul 2021 #64

Much the same here. roamer65 Jul 2021 #76

We can not go quietly into the night for the sake of our children and the wildlife. waterwatcher123 Jul 2021 #66

Beautifully expressed jmbar2 Jul 2021 #87

Thank you - sorry for the delayed response. waterwatcher123 Jul 2021 #116

I believe there's an even greater, more idealistic reason misanthrope Jul 2021 #105

Good point - it is too bad that our self-awareness is not enough to over-ride other impulses. waterwatcher123 Jul 2021 #115

I have been paying attention. Susan Calvin Jul 2021 #67

It's likely too late however as individuals one of the single most impactful actions totally in our MLAA Jul 2021 #68

I'm on your side. Aussie105 Jul 2021 #69

Yeah! MLAA Jul 2021 #81

I am 6 years younger mgardener Jul 2021 #70

It's inevitable. Aussie105 Jul 2021 #73

This thread is exceptional. yonder Jul 2021 #74

I'm in the mid fifties and I expect to see the leading edge of it. roamer65 Jul 2021 #75

Climate exodus indeed. Aussie105 Jul 2021 #79

Same Thtwudbeme Jul 2021 #95

As the climate crisis gets worse, we will also see suicide rates increase dramatically. roamer65 Jul 2021 #83

Yeah, the problems seem to be multiplying... DemocraticPatriot Jul 2021 #90

41 yr old here. Sounds like I'm a youngin in this thread NickB79 Jul 2021 #98

I am 71 and feel the same ribrepin Jul 2021 #108