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30. My go to saying: Avoiding talks about racism, does not mean you are a racially sensitive person.

Mon Jul 5, 2021, 09:02 AM

Jul 2021

That's been my experience with so many white conservatives I use to socialize with. They thought we were good, close friends despite the fact that there was this elephant in the room that no one wanted to bring up. So, they cherry picked the friendship, while I grew more convinced each day that the relationship was turning toxic.

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"If you have a Black friend and you've never discussed racism with them ..." [View all] StarfishSaver Jul 2021 OP

I have a lot of black friends and I have discussed racism with some of them MagickMuffin Jul 2021 #1

K&R. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2021 #2

Truth. Elessar Zappa Jul 2021 #3

"Why you need a black friend" Wanda Sykes mysteryowl Jul 2021 #18

This is hilarious! StarfishSaver Jul 2021 #95

YES...YES... YES...!!! mysteryowl Jul 2021 #98

Excellent point! Dreampuff Jul 2021 #4

If you want to know the unvarnished thoughts wnylib Jul 2021 #8

Would I be welcome at a pow wow? wryter2000 Jul 2021 #22

Most of the time, yes. They are wnylib Jul 2021 #25

Thanks wryter2000 Jul 2021 #31

Lots of folks go to powwows in WI. LakeArenal Jul 2021 #50

I've Gone To the Piscataway Powwows Deep State Witch Jul 2021 #53

Exactly. LakeArenal Jul 2021 #54

We've talked. We've laughed, we've cried, and we've screamed about it. It helps sometimes... FailureToCommunicate Jul 2021 #5

I'll give a slightly different perspective here.... bahboo Jul 2021 #6

Think we are supposed to start acting differently??. But Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2021 #24

Yeah, it isn't a prerequisite Cosmocat Jul 2021 #32

Sounds too much like right to me :) Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2021 #85

These black friends are usually people they might see often JI7 Jul 2021 #7

In college, I roomed with two black friends from high school DFW Jul 2021 #9

In college I too had a black roommate-by choice. The redneck yokel that was assigned panader0 Jul 2021 #29

It seems like you really were good friends sammythecat Jul 2021 #34

Basically, those guys believed that I didn't feel racist. panader0 Jul 2021 #35

So is that the crux of this whole debate? That we as Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2021 #57

I don't know what it's like to be a paraplegic either but I can understand what life is like for one LakeArenal Jul 2021 #80

Yes, this type of defensiveness wellst0nev0ter Jul 2021 #92

It "seems" like...? He just stated were. LakeArenal Jul 2021 #52

Well, pardon the fuck oughta me sammythecat Jul 2021 #96

This message was self-deleted by its author LakeArenal Jul 2021 #97

Some topics are very triggering for some people StarfishSaver Jul 2021 #99

I respond to a completely believable account sammythecat Jul 2021 #100

Your response was honest and open and seeking to learn more StarfishSaver Jul 2021 #101

What a great story! StarfishSaver Jul 2021 #43

America isn't racist. Some of my best friends are black. speak easy Jul 2021 #10

This message was self-deleted by its author JCMach1 Jul 2021 #11

How would they be your friend then? Sympthsical Jul 2021 #12

I have no black friends. That said I have few friends at all. GulfCoast66 Jul 2021 #13

I don't have any black friends either. 3Hotdogs Jul 2021 #19

Damn, I FELT that last paragraph Bucky Jul 2021 #70

On the day George Floyd was murdered, my book club met. A longtime member summer_in_TX Jul 2021 #14

I have a friend from Trinidad/Tobago drmeow Jul 2021 #15

I agree. Duppers Jul 2021 #26

This Hekate Jul 2021 #102

I do and I have. nt sheshe2 Jul 2021 #16

How would they be your friend then? Sympthsical Jul 2021 #17

This makes me sad, though it is probably true .... Trueblue Texan Jul 2021 #20

If a black friend discusses racism with me wryter2000 Jul 2021 #21

Close friends share things MyMission Jul 2021 #23

This message was self-deleted by its author Hekate Jul 2021 #27

I have discussed race and racism wnylib Jul 2021 #28

My go to saying: Avoiding talks about racism, does not mean you are a racially sensitive person. Baitball Blogger Jul 2021 #30

Recommended. H2O Man Jul 2021 #33

This is true to a point FakeNoose Jul 2021 #36

Why can't the white person just bring it up? StarfishSaver Jul 2021 #38

Yes I agree with you on this FakeNoose Jul 2021 #39

You're right ... But an element of white privilege ... StarfishSaver Jul 2021 #41

Let me try to understand. You are saying that people Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2021 #59

There's a difference between discussing racism StarfishSaver Jul 2021 #60

Great first step...! Thank you for trying to explain Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2021 #61

You seemed like you wanted to understand... tonedevil Jul 2021 #64

Oh my, that is not true. I truly want to understand Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2021 #67

If you "have a black friend" KentuckyWoman Jul 2021 #37

That's my thought too. It feels like "if" you have a POC that is a friend LakeArenal Jul 2021 #51

There are alot of topics in the universe fescuerescue Jul 2021 #40

Racism is a fact of life for virtually every Black person - a daily reality StarfishSaver Jul 2021 #42

So you think they all must want to talk about the same exact topic? fescuerescue Jul 2021 #86

Anyone who's ever bothered to talk to one of "them" about racism would never ask such a question StarfishSaver Jul 2021 #87

This isn't about me fescuerescue Jul 2021 #89

Nonsense. This is like other absolutist statements -- Hortensis Jul 2021 #44

There's a term for refusing to even consider a point because it isn't worded "insightfully" enough StarfishSaver Jul 2021 #45

There sure is. I understand if the idea of sitting down and Hortensis Jul 2021 #46

It's interesting you think a Black person you think of as a friend talking to you about racism, StarfishSaver Jul 2021 #47

Were you replying to someone else?? This response Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2021 #48

This message was self-deleted by its author StarfishSaver Jul 2021 #49

My Black Friends Know That I Stand With Them Deep State Witch Jul 2021 #55

Another day. LakeArenal Jul 2021 #56

You "never refer to her as my black friend, her black husband and their whole black family." StarfishSaver Jul 2021 #65

You parse a single word and put your site on that. LakeArenal Jul 2021 #71

"'...about our racism..." cause this is needed right? tia. After 77 mil Americans voted for the ... uponit7771 Jul 2021 #74

Okay let's parse the the words again. LakeArenal Jul 2021 #76

What do you mean by "friend"? Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2021 #79

I don't see the OP sentiment being explicit to DU uponit7771 Jul 2021 #81

Yes. I certainly do. Consistently, regularly and purposefully. LakeArenal Jul 2021 #83

I don't discuss it with my white friends unless they bring it up Polybius Jul 2021 #58

Umm...according to the OP, if you are "white" you ARE a racist. So silly. n/t Fix The Stupid Jul 2021 #62

Especially silly in a liberal forum. Generalizations too Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2021 #63

It's straight up privilege. Some posters are allowed to crap all over this once awesome board... Fix The Stupid Jul 2021 #68

This board/neighborhood/club/country used to be so great before THEY came in StarfishSaver Jul 2021 #77

Post removed Post removed Jul 2021 #94

I don't see the OP making that point cause you can be non-white and have a black friend uponit7771 Jul 2021 #72

Too much parsing here. Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2021 #78

This post is reminding me I haven't really talked with anybody in the last 18 months Bucky Jul 2021 #66

DUzy!!!!! Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2021 #75

Subthread for organic conversation segus -- share your suggestions Bucky Jul 2021 #69

Or StarfishSaver Jul 2021 #73

Sarcasm Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2021 #82

Yep ibegurpard Jul 2021 #84

Well of course. I acknowledge that, of course. It's in Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2021 #88

A lot of people on DU... tonedevil Jul 2021 #90

Lots of things show around here StarfishSaver Jul 2021 #91

I have definitely had conversations about racism with my various blacks friends... electric_blue68 Jul 2021 #93

Since you brought up the topic, what do you think of DU's African American Group? Hekate Jul 2021 #103

Interesting. Also profiles are interesting. LakeArenal Jul 2021 #105

Indeed they are Hekate Jul 2021 #106

The minute you say you have a black friend, that is considered racist! treestar Jul 2021 #104

Well, I have and was shut down by her. maxsolomon Jul 2021 #107