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72. A letter to the editor about Nina Turner, and the Plain Dealer's endorsement, from Cleveland.com

Mon Jul 5, 2021, 08:48 PM

Jul 2021

"Nina Turner is too divisive to represent the 11th Congressional District

Too bad that The Plain Dealer supports Nina Turner in the Aug. 3 special Democratic primary election for the 11th Congressional District (”Nina Turner in the Democratic primary for 11th Congressional District seat,” July 4). Ms. Turner’s antics hurt the Democratic Party. She co-chaired Bernie Sanders’ campaign for the presidency in 2016 but after Hillary Clinton won the nomination, Ms. Turner refused to endorse Clinton against Donald Trump. Tepid support by Sanders supporters likely ensured Trump’s victory. And even after four years of Trump, she wouldn’t endorse Joe Biden, saying last July that voting for Biden was liking having half a bowl of “s---” in front of you. Turner’s distasteful analogy was divisive when the Democrats needed cohesion to win the presidency and preserve our democracy. I’m not eager to have a person as intemperate as Turner represent me in Congress. I’m enthusiastic for Shontel Brown, who has the experience to represent the 11th District honorably, respectfully and collaboratively. As far as Ms. Turner’s divisiveness and intemperance are concerned, she could just as well be a Republican.

Dr. Michael M. Lederman,

Cleveland Heights"

https://www.cleveland.com/letters/2021/07/nina-turner-is-too-divisive-to-represent-the-11th-congressional-district.html

This is in response to this endorsement:

https://www.cleveland.com/opinion/2021/07/nina-turner-in-the-democratic-primary-for-the-11th-congressional-district.html

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'That Person Is Nina Turner': Progressive Nabs July 4 Endorsement of Largest Ohio Newspaper [View all] jalan48 Jul 2021 OP

Are the other candidates terrible? Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #1

From the newspaper editorial jalan48 Jul 2021 #4

Yeah. I read it. I don't agree with their characterization of Nina. I like people who vote Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #14

The editor of the Cleveland Plain Dealer and cleveland.com is a union buster. See #28 below. Thanks. George II Jul 2021 #29

The largest newspaper in Ohio endorsing Nina? Huge! jalan48 Jul 2021 #34

Also one of the largest union busting companies in Ohio and most likely THE largest union busting... George II Jul 2021 #35

They also endorsed Hillary in 2016 so.... jalan48 Jul 2021 #40

Five years ago, in a General Election, different editorial board so.... George II Jul 2021 #42

Sounds like they've moved to the left which is a good thing. jalan48 Jul 2021 #43

Seems more like they've move to the right since 2016. George II Jul 2021 #51

Seems like you trying to imply that Turner is anti-union. Cuthbert Allgood Jul 2021 #61

You may want to research her voting record as Ohio State Senator. George II Jul 2021 #69

I assume you are talking about her support in the past for charter schools in Cleveland. Cuthbert Allgood Jul 2021 #71

The only candidate in any competition has a problem with transphobic misgendering of trans women Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2021 #32

Does she vote for Democrats? Because if she does vote for Democrats, she will do a lot Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #46

Not stepping down as Cuyahoga County Democratic Party chair is not an ethical lapse. County chairs.. George II Jul 2021 #60

I see you ignored the transphobia. Cuthbert Allgood Jul 2021 #62

So did the person to whom I responded, who brought up the so-called "transphobia" in the first place George II Jul 2021 #66

It's a pretty clear statement that says Brown has made transphobic statements. Cuthbert Allgood Jul 2021 #70

The post to which I responded: George II Jul 2021 #73

"The only candidate in any competition has a problem with transphobic misgendering..." Cuthbert Allgood Jul 2021 #76

Like I said, other than the word "transphobia" there was nothing else in that post.... George II Jul 2021 #78

So, do you support the transphobic statements of Brown? Cuthbert Allgood Jul 2021 #79

Where? George II Jul 2021 #80

I literally have you a link. Cuthbert Allgood Jul 2021 #81

You literally gave me a link to a page asking for input. What I was referring to earlier.... George II Jul 2021 #82

There's a really interesting "Letter to the Editor" on cleveland.com. We should all read it. George II Jul 2021 #83

... Scurrilous Jul 2021 #2

I can almost hear Louis Stokes turning in his grave... hlthe2b Jul 2021 #3

So Louis Stokes would be turning in his grave..because a black woman is bring endorsed for his seat? Autumn Jul 2021 #8

Over ANOTHER very well qualified Black woman candidate who has not tried to destroy the Democratic hlthe2b Jul 2021 #10

No, you deciding Stokes is turning over in his grave because a black woman is running against Autumn Jul 2021 #15

So you are unable to distinguish between INDIVIDUAL Black women candidates. Ummm, ok, Autumn hlthe2b Jul 2021 #16

They are both well qualified, so one is as good as the other. I don't live there I don't get Autumn Jul 2021 #93

"because a black woman is bring endorsed for his seat?" Jedi Guy Jul 2021 #86

I agree. betsuni Jul 2021 #88

Sadly it's about what I've come to expect from Autumn. Jedi Guy Jul 2021 #89

and Stephanie is too. Chili Jul 2021 #20

I'm kind of getting tired of people who "have the guts to say what they think" Walleye Jul 2021 #5

2 beers? luv2fly Jul 2021 #18

Of course some of these guys are perfectly hateful when sober Walleye Jul 2021 #22

I'm afraid, if elected, Nina will become the far left's Marj. I used to like her, but after she Vinca Jul 2021 #6

My only hope is that she would scramble the "Sqad" and all of a sudden AOC and Omar will lose thier question everything Jul 2021 #9

It's a virtual guarantee BannonsLiver Jul 2021 #13

She doesn't congregate well with others. LiberalFighter Jul 2021 #36

From comparing Biden to a bowl of shit, to what she did to Hillary in 2016, this is pathetic JohnSJ Jul 2021 #7

12 minutes to "bowl of shit" Arazi Jul 2021 #63

If she would have apologized for that analogy I would have a different take, but since she didn't JohnSJ Jul 2021 #65

Tiffany Cross gave her a chance to walk back that comment a month or so ago and instead... George II Jul 2021 #91

Yup. I believe Charles Blow also gave her an opportunity and she did the same thing. JohnSJ Jul 2021 #97

Did she or did she not say those words? Jedi Guy Jul 2021 #87

Why, is it fake news? She didn't say that? She didn't really mean that? betsuni Jul 2021 #92

She urged people to vote AGAINST Dems in 2016, helping throw the nation Hortensis Jul 2021 #11

I would urge people not to vote for her. She is not a trustworthy Dem Pisces Jul 2021 #25

To have good government, you elect good people. Hortensis Jul 2021 #26

As the French would say DFW Jul 2021 #37

Yep! She did not work to help elect Democrats. LiberalFighter Jul 2021 #38

Sure. Millions didn't work to help, though, but she worked against. Hortensis Jul 2021 #53

"Speaking Out" / "Standing Up to..." msfiddlestix Jul 2021 #12

Oh, God, yes! All the drooling headlines about the candidate who "speaks out" against Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #49

I sure hope Shontell pulls ahead.. msfiddlestix Jul 2021 #84

My favorite is "take on." Take on this and take on that, fight for, stand up to, speak truth to betsuni Jul 2021 #54

Or when they refute something and we're told they "SILENCED!" or "CRUSHED!" the other person. Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #90

That nonsense is all over Youtube these days. Jedi Guy Jul 2021 #95

Axios had an interesting take on the race last week. lapucelle Jul 2021 #17

Plain Dealer is RW now. They aren't looking out FOR Dem voters. blm Jul 2021 #19

From Boston University Libraies jalan48 Jul 2021 #21

Inaccurate for PD. blm Jul 2021 #27

You just said it's right wing Arazi Jul 2021 #64

I said its left is center. blm Jul 2021 #75

PD "endorsement" mactire Jul 2021 #23

Newhouse/Advanced Publications also produces New Yorker & Reddit Budi Jul 2021 #24

Apparently now union busting is fine, too. George II Jul 2021 #30

The editor of the Cleveland Plain Dealer and cleveland.com (affiliated online publication) is a.... George II Jul 2021 #28

They are just trying to suppress the black Democratic vote. Nina as the national candidate joetheman Jul 2021 #31

They know a great Democrat when they see one! Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2021 #33

Bowls for everyone I guess. 48656c6c6f20 Jul 2021 #39

Ohio Sen. Nina Turner at odds with state teachers union OilemFirchen Jul 2021 #41

Why didn't you link to the actual editorial endorsement itself instead of a subjective rehash of it? George II Jul 2021 #44

Feel free to link to the actual endorsement if it makes you feel better. jalan48 Jul 2021 #45

It just seems odd that if a newspaper publishes an endorsement the actual endorsement isn't used. George II Jul 2021 #47

The salient point is, "The largest newspaper in Ohio endorses Nina". jalan48 Jul 2021 #48

Or it could be surmised that they don't want the strongest Democrat to run against the republican? George II Jul 2021 #50

Huge Endorsement George. Huge. jalan48 Jul 2021 #52

Too bad she doesn't vote for Democrats and she encourages others not to vote for Democrats. Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #55

She's a little rough around the edges but I like her strong voice. We will need more of those to jalan48 Jul 2021 #56

No. We need people to vote for Democrats. And calling Joe Biden a bowl of shit is not "strong." Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #57

"Kind of shocking people don't seem to get it." Jedi Guy Jul 2021 #96

Our Revolution (PAC Turner was president of) has hauled out the "Clinton machine" boogieman again. betsuni Jul 2021 #67

It's kind of crazy that people are endorsing her. Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #68

I wonder if people in Ohio only remember her as a senator but don't know about the last five years betsuni Jul 2021 #77

Curious how the endorsement from Majority Whip James Clyburn for Shontel Brown last week.... George II Jul 2021 #58

Yes, and Ted Lieu too. jalan48 Jul 2021 #59

A letter to the editor about Nina Turner, and the Plain Dealer's endorsement, from Cleveland.com JohnSJ Jul 2021 #72

Sounds like Shontel has Mr. Lederman's vote. jalan48 Jul 2021 #74

Sounds like Jim Jordan has the Cleveland Plain Dealer's vote. Remember, Jordan ran against.... George II Jul 2021 #98

What the hell were the Plain Dealer folks thinking? oasis Jul 2021 #85

It should be noted that the Cleveland Plain Dealer endorsed Jim Jordan in the last election. George II Jul 2021 #94