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61. The real problem is that the Republicans will say none of your IDs are good enough

Tue Jul 6, 2021, 03:37 AM

Jul 2021

Without a standard agreed upon ID, the GOP will just say you cannot vote because your IDs are fake.

Of course your IDs are legitimate, but when a person of color shows up to vote with their seven forms of ID none will be good enough. Then for that day they cannot vote.

After the voting is done the GOP will claim the IDs were good after all. Our mistake, meanwhile the voter does not get a chance to vote and have his or her vote count for that election.

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Can Democrats Stomach A National Voter ID Law To Please Joe Manchin? [View all] UCmeNdc Jul 2021 OP

This Democrat can't. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2021 #1

It might be necessary Elessar Zappa Jul 2021 #4

Voter ID laws are inherently exclusionary and giving the federal government that power is WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2021 #9

Well first of all, we can help folks acquire the ID's but if we get nothing, it will be much worse. Demsrule86 Jul 2021 #18

With popup sites Darwins_Retriever Jul 2021 #20

Those are great ideas. Demsrule86 Jul 2021 #57

I've never understood acquiescing to the republican talking point of voter IDs. brush Jul 2021 #21

No, that is not a requirement for the federal VRA of 1993 former9thward Jul 2021 #39

Seriosly? What percentage of voters do that? I'm betting not even one percent. brush Jul 2021 #49

I don't know what the percent is. former9thward Jul 2021 #50

It's endless and pointless redundancy. Even if a voter fills out a federal only registration... brush Jul 2021 #51

No they don't. former9thward Jul 2021 #53

I did read your link. brush Jul 2021 #54

I have no doubt what you say is true, but given the fact that the Senate is 50 50 and the house Demsrule86 Jul 2021 #56

Agreed. Because of political realities we have to work around this to get done what we want done. brush Jul 2021 #58

We can at least improve the situation...even if we can't fix it permanently at this time. Demsrule86 Jul 2021 #59

Why not? The proposal is a national law requiring ID, not a national ID. Hortensis Jul 2021 #26

No matter who is issuing voter ID, it increases costs and restricts access for millions. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2021 #28

No. How COULD it increase costs if it basically wrote existing Hortensis Jul 2021 #32

What existing practices? Each state has its own. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2021 #34

I'd be for it if Elessar Zappa Jul 2021 #2

Wait, I thought it was conservatives who fought this... Wounded Bear Jul 2021 #3

But Republicans DO NOT want Democrats to vote! ProudMNDemocrat Jul 2021 #5

A national ID card is perfectly consistent with voter suppression Effete Snob Jul 2021 #12

No. This would NOT be a national voter ID card. Hortensis Jul 2021 #27

No, it is a stupid idea Effete Snob Jul 2021 #6

You are absolutely Rebl2 Jul 2021 #10

Can you imagine? Effete Snob Jul 2021 #11

Scary thought Rebl2 Jul 2021 #13

Good news then BGBD Jul 2021 #60

How would letting voters use student ID or utility bills create bureaucracy? Hortensis Jul 2021 #29

So, you have seen some kind of draft version of these regulations? Effete Snob Jul 2021 #41

Anyone can read about the proposal being discussed Hortensis Jul 2021 #44

I do not find a draft anywhere Effete Snob Jul 2021 #45

Okay, maybe watch from the sidelines. That's all we really do, anyway. nt Hortensis Jul 2021 #46

You can read pending legislation on a number of sites Effete Snob Jul 2021 #47

If you read about it, you'd have learned this isn't "pending legislation." Hortensis Jul 2021 #48

If we focus on jailing the reTHUG Fascist Insurrectionist Cultists then we won't have to abqtommy Jul 2021 #7

The GOP wants to suppress enough votes to win in 2022 and 2024. Girard442 Jul 2021 #8

I don't think it's a big deal madville Jul 2021 #14

The real problem is that the Republicans will say none of your IDs are good enough UCmeNdc Jul 2021 #61

We have had a photo ID law in FL since 1998 madville Jul 2021 #62

I have one Bettie Jul 2021 #63

Student ID is an acceptable form of photo ID in FL madville Jul 2021 #65

Republicans may be mean and evil, but they are not all idiots DFW Jul 2021 #15

Yes. :) It'd be good if they saw something of a win for their "side" in this, Hortensis Jul 2021 #31

Requiring ID is not the problem StarfishSaver Jul 2021 #38

what other posters say about being a facilitator to voter suppression is true rampartc Jul 2021 #16

Republicans want to control IDs at the state level BradAllison Jul 2021 #17

Sure, I like it Amishman Jul 2021 #19

I could, under one condition... Progressive Jones Jul 2021 #22

We have to show ID already and the requirement I_UndergroundPanther Jul 2021 #23

"Require voter ID with allowable alternatives (utility bill, etc.) to prove identity to vote." Hortensis Jul 2021 #24

x1000, Hortensis peggysue2 Jul 2021 #35

"This isn't a losing proposition. This is the way we win." Exactly. Hortensis Jul 2021 #36

A utility bill sent to one's residence is used in California tirebiter Jul 2021 #25

I do mine online, and don't get one sent to me Effete Snob Jul 2021 #42

I have no objection to a National. alter ID requirement. brooklynite Jul 2021 #30

If the IDs are free and easily available to qualified individuals, yes. GoCubsGo Jul 2021 #33

I think a national voter ID program is something we could overcome. There would be no excuse Vinca Jul 2021 #37

+1, They'll add some excuses even though this solves little to nothing uponit7771 Jul 2021 #52

If the ID is free then do it krawhitham Jul 2021 #40

In my way of thinking, the RWNJ ChumpHumping crazies will be against this FakeNoose Jul 2021 #43

Their inconsistencies and contradictions are mind boggling Cosmocat Jul 2021 #55

I don't see why not. As far as I know, you're required to show an ID to vote here in Canada. Jedi Guy Jul 2021 #64

I don't give a shit Polybius Jul 2021 #66