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wellst0nev0ter

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92. Yes, this type of defensiveness

Reply to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #57)

Tue Jul 6, 2021, 09:25 PM

Jul 2021

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"If you have a Black friend and you've never discussed racism with them ..." [View all] StarfishSaver Jul 2021 OP

I have a lot of black friends and I have discussed racism with some of them MagickMuffin Jul 2021 #1

K&R. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2021 #2

Truth. Elessar Zappa Jul 2021 #3

"Why you need a black friend" Wanda Sykes mysteryowl Jul 2021 #18

This is hilarious! StarfishSaver Jul 2021 #95

YES...YES... YES...!!! mysteryowl Jul 2021 #98

Excellent point! Dreampuff Jul 2021 #4

If you want to know the unvarnished thoughts wnylib Jul 2021 #8

Would I be welcome at a pow wow? wryter2000 Jul 2021 #22

Most of the time, yes. They are wnylib Jul 2021 #25

Thanks wryter2000 Jul 2021 #31

Lots of folks go to powwows in WI. LakeArenal Jul 2021 #50

I've Gone To the Piscataway Powwows Deep State Witch Jul 2021 #53

Exactly. LakeArenal Jul 2021 #54

We've talked. We've laughed, we've cried, and we've screamed about it. It helps sometimes... FailureToCommunicate Jul 2021 #5

I'll give a slightly different perspective here.... bahboo Jul 2021 #6

Think we are supposed to start acting differently??. But Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2021 #24

Yeah, it isn't a prerequisite Cosmocat Jul 2021 #32

Sounds too much like right to me :) Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2021 #85

These black friends are usually people they might see often JI7 Jul 2021 #7

In college, I roomed with two black friends from high school DFW Jul 2021 #9

In college I too had a black roommate-by choice. The redneck yokel that was assigned panader0 Jul 2021 #29

It seems like you really were good friends sammythecat Jul 2021 #34

Basically, those guys believed that I didn't feel racist. panader0 Jul 2021 #35

So is that the crux of this whole debate? That we as Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2021 #57

I don't know what it's like to be a paraplegic either but I can understand what life is like for one LakeArenal Jul 2021 #80

Yes, this type of defensiveness wellst0nev0ter Jul 2021 #92

It "seems" like...? He just stated were. LakeArenal Jul 2021 #52

Well, pardon the fuck oughta me sammythecat Jul 2021 #96

This message was self-deleted by its author LakeArenal Jul 2021 #97

Some topics are very triggering for some people StarfishSaver Jul 2021 #99

I respond to a completely believable account sammythecat Jul 2021 #100

Your response was honest and open and seeking to learn more StarfishSaver Jul 2021 #101

What a great story! StarfishSaver Jul 2021 #43

America isn't racist. Some of my best friends are black. speak easy Jul 2021 #10

This message was self-deleted by its author JCMach1 Jul 2021 #11

How would they be your friend then? Sympthsical Jul 2021 #12

I have no black friends. That said I have few friends at all. GulfCoast66 Jul 2021 #13

I don't have any black friends either. 3Hotdogs Jul 2021 #19

Damn, I FELT that last paragraph Bucky Jul 2021 #70

On the day George Floyd was murdered, my book club met. A longtime member summer_in_TX Jul 2021 #14

I have a friend from Trinidad/Tobago drmeow Jul 2021 #15

I agree. Duppers Jul 2021 #26

This Hekate Jul 2021 #102

I do and I have. nt sheshe2 Jul 2021 #16

How would they be your friend then? Sympthsical Jul 2021 #17

This makes me sad, though it is probably true .... Trueblue Texan Jul 2021 #20

If a black friend discusses racism with me wryter2000 Jul 2021 #21

Close friends share things MyMission Jul 2021 #23

This message was self-deleted by its author Hekate Jul 2021 #27

I have discussed race and racism wnylib Jul 2021 #28

My go to saying: Avoiding talks about racism, does not mean you are a racially sensitive person. Baitball Blogger Jul 2021 #30

Recommended. H2O Man Jul 2021 #33

This is true to a point FakeNoose Jul 2021 #36

Why can't the white person just bring it up? StarfishSaver Jul 2021 #38

Yes I agree with you on this FakeNoose Jul 2021 #39

You're right ... But an element of white privilege ... StarfishSaver Jul 2021 #41

Let me try to understand. You are saying that people Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2021 #59

There's a difference between discussing racism StarfishSaver Jul 2021 #60

Great first step...! Thank you for trying to explain Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2021 #61

You seemed like you wanted to understand... tonedevil Jul 2021 #64

Oh my, that is not true. I truly want to understand Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2021 #67

If you "have a black friend" KentuckyWoman Jul 2021 #37

That's my thought too. It feels like "if" you have a POC that is a friend LakeArenal Jul 2021 #51

There are alot of topics in the universe fescuerescue Jul 2021 #40

Racism is a fact of life for virtually every Black person - a daily reality StarfishSaver Jul 2021 #42

So you think they all must want to talk about the same exact topic? fescuerescue Jul 2021 #86

Anyone who's ever bothered to talk to one of "them" about racism would never ask such a question StarfishSaver Jul 2021 #87

This isn't about me fescuerescue Jul 2021 #89

Nonsense. This is like other absolutist statements -- Hortensis Jul 2021 #44

There's a term for refusing to even consider a point because it isn't worded "insightfully" enough StarfishSaver Jul 2021 #45

There sure is. I understand if the idea of sitting down and Hortensis Jul 2021 #46

It's interesting you think a Black person you think of as a friend talking to you about racism, StarfishSaver Jul 2021 #47

Were you replying to someone else?? This response Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2021 #48

This message was self-deleted by its author StarfishSaver Jul 2021 #49

My Black Friends Know That I Stand With Them Deep State Witch Jul 2021 #55

Another day. LakeArenal Jul 2021 #56

You "never refer to her as my black friend, her black husband and their whole black family." StarfishSaver Jul 2021 #65

You parse a single word and put your site on that. LakeArenal Jul 2021 #71

"'...about our racism..." cause this is needed right? tia. After 77 mil Americans voted for the ... uponit7771 Jul 2021 #74

Okay let's parse the the words again. LakeArenal Jul 2021 #76

What do you mean by "friend"? Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2021 #79

I don't see the OP sentiment being explicit to DU uponit7771 Jul 2021 #81

Yes. I certainly do. Consistently, regularly and purposefully. LakeArenal Jul 2021 #83

I don't discuss it with my white friends unless they bring it up Polybius Jul 2021 #58

Umm...according to the OP, if you are "white" you ARE a racist. So silly. n/t Fix The Stupid Jul 2021 #62

Especially silly in a liberal forum. Generalizations too Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2021 #63

It's straight up privilege. Some posters are allowed to crap all over this once awesome board... Fix The Stupid Jul 2021 #68

This board/neighborhood/club/country used to be so great before THEY came in StarfishSaver Jul 2021 #77

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I don't see the OP making that point cause you can be non-white and have a black friend uponit7771 Jul 2021 #72

Too much parsing here. Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2021 #78

This post is reminding me I haven't really talked with anybody in the last 18 months Bucky Jul 2021 #66

DUzy!!!!! Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2021 #75

Subthread for organic conversation segus -- share your suggestions Bucky Jul 2021 #69

Or StarfishSaver Jul 2021 #73

Sarcasm Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2021 #82

Yep ibegurpard Jul 2021 #84

Well of course. I acknowledge that, of course. It's in Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2021 #88

A lot of people on DU... tonedevil Jul 2021 #90

Lots of things show around here StarfishSaver Jul 2021 #91

I have definitely had conversations about racism with my various blacks friends... electric_blue68 Jul 2021 #93

Since you brought up the topic, what do you think of DU's African American Group? Hekate Jul 2021 #103

Interesting. Also profiles are interesting. LakeArenal Jul 2021 #105

Indeed they are Hekate Jul 2021 #106

The minute you say you have a black friend, that is considered racist! treestar Jul 2021 #104

Well, I have and was shut down by her. maxsolomon Jul 2021 #107