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markpkessinger

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34. Nonsense . . .
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 01:34 AM
Jul 2021

Washington, Jefferson, Madison and Monroe were all Deists, who believed that a supreme being created the world, and then withdrew from it and allowed it to run according to the laws that being had ordained. But given that they were also Virginians, and the Church of England was the established church in that colony, prior to the revoluition they would have been nominal Anglicans, but that doesn't necessarily mean they accepted Anglican dogma for themselves. Jesus was largely irrelevant in the scheme of Deism. They accepted terms like A.D. because Christians were indeed dominant, and they had no interest in trying to convert anyone away from it.

Of George Washington, Jefferson once observed that George Washington "has divines constantly about him because he thinks it right to keep up appearances but is an unbeliever. According to biographer Steven Waldman, Madison's view was that Washington was spiritual but not interested in the theological particulars of the Christian faith. Jefferson and Adams both seemed to have viewed Jesus more as a great ethical and moral teacher rather than their personal "Lord."

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K&R smirkymonkey Jul 2021 #1
Someone Needs To Mention This To GB_RN Jul 2021 #2
Nice ace3csusm Jul 2021 #3
They'll just respond with one variation or another of: Aristus Jul 2021 #5
That's When You Reply... GB_RN Jul 2021 #6
I like the Gaston quote... Wounded Bear Jul 2021 #8
I think his name was Phillipe Gaston. Aristus Jul 2021 #9
Also known as The Mouse... Wounded Bear Jul 2021 #10
"What God says to you... reACTIONary Jul 2021 #19
Jesus never mentioned abortion either in the new testament. KS Toronado Jul 2021 #4
Yeah, that one always throws them ... though my siblings are always able to come up with scripture KPN Jul 2021 #7
That was the first thing that I thought of too when I read this. Thanks! n/t iscooterliberally Jul 2021 #11
Last I checked, it was gawd who murdered thousands of first born Egyptians in their sleep. Probatim Jul 2021 #12
That was King Herod, not God, who issued that order. oldsoftie Jul 2021 #36
Two entirely different bible stories Siwsan Jul 2021 #38
Thanks - I had forgotten about King Herod. Probatim Jul 2021 #40
I bet we could share similar stories Siwsan Jul 2021 #41
I refer to myself as a catholic school lefty. Probatim Jul 2021 #42
And I get to throw Dyslexia into the mix Siwsan Jul 2021 #43
You are correct Leith Jul 2021 #16
That's interesting, never heard of it. KS Toronado Jul 2021 #22
Possibly Numbers 5:11-31 could be interpreted as such. 11 Bravo Jul 2021 #24
Yup Leith Jul 2021 #30
THANK YOU!!!!! calimary Jul 2021 #13
Actually Jesus doesn't mention anything in the Bible. Mr.Bill Jul 2021 #14
True, the first writing about him wasn't until 50 years after his supposed death mdbl Jul 2021 #27
K&R Blue Owl Jul 2021 #15
The Constitution doesn't mention God, either ... Jopin Klobe Jul 2021 #17
"in the year of our Lord" is in Article VII former9thward Jul 2021 #26
It's a stretch to call that a "mention" markpkessinger Jul 2021 #32
Post removed Post removed Jul 2021 #33
Nonsense . . . markpkessinger Jul 2021 #34
But "A.D." refers to time after the birth of Jesus oldsoftie Jul 2021 #37
Amen Joinfortmill Jul 2021 #18
Separation from Turd and Hate. lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #20
This is exactly why "In God We Trust" needs to be removed from our money. roamer65 Jul 2021 #21
K&R spanone Jul 2021 #23
The Constitution says "in the year of our Lord" in Article VII former9thward Jul 2021 #25
That is damned thin soup! aka-chmeee Jul 2021 #39
Conservatives will never come to terms with anything bucolic_frolic Jul 2021 #28
We're coming over kicking and screaming. Remember? czarjak Jul 2021 #29
If you really believe in Jesus remember what he said about government. halfulglas Jul 2021 #31
YeahButButBut, Jesus wrote the Bible in Amurican English for a reason!!! griloco Jul 2021 #35
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