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Jedi Guy

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72. In the context of Germany, its past, and its struggles to come to terms with that past, sure.

Reply to wnylib (Reply #70)

Sat Jul 10, 2021, 03:47 PM

Jul 2021

If someone proposed such legislation here in the States, I'd fight it tooth and nail.

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Imagine being Jewish... [View all] sheshe2 Jul 2021 OP

Just a slight difference. Omnipresent Jul 2021 #1

THe Slave Owners Worked THeir Slaves To Death In Many Cases Me. Jul 2021 #2

Make no mistake about it. Omnipresent Jul 2021 #40

True to a point. sheshe2 Jul 2021 #3

The Civil War evolves Jul 2021 #9

Amen to that... Moostache Jul 2021 #56

They tortured, raped, and killed plenty of slaves IronLionZion Jul 2021 #10

Curious TimeToGo Jul 2021 #19

It happened enough times for slave states to pass laws forbidding it IronLionZion Jul 2021 #27

That I could see TimeToGo Jul 2021 #29

There was some of that IronLionZion Jul 2021 #32

bottom line is Skittles Jul 2021 #12

The nazis also used Jews as cheap labor w/o feeding them properly KS Toronado Jul 2021 #14

This is NOT a useful distinction. ShazzieB Jul 2021 #25

I can think of many things to celebrate. Neither of these is worth it. Omnipresent Jul 2021 #52

Slaves in the Confederacy were treated like mules DBoon Jul 2021 #55

Not cheap labor malaise Jul 2021 #66

Not really free. Omnipresent Jul 2021 #77

K&R smirkymonkey Jul 2021 #4

There is no other explanation -n/t Retired Engineer Bob Jul 2021 #5

Truly hideous human beings. uriel1972 Jul 2021 #6

K&R LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #7

K&R... spanone Jul 2021 #8

The dumbest conservatives believe there are Hitler statues in Germany IronLionZion Jul 2021 #11

Never heard of that belief, but then I can't keep up with the stupidity. Any link? Ta. nt Hekate Jul 2021 #18

No link, just people I know have said that in response to removing confederate statues. nt IronLionZion Jul 2021 #28

Gaaaah Hekate Jul 2021 #30

I had an acquaintance tell me that. I asked where. She said the memorial at Auschwitz. Sheesh. SharonAnn Jul 2021 #22

That's a good example! lunatica Jul 2021 #13

I am Jewish and I am totally with them on that. rickyhall Jul 2021 #15

I'll leave comparisons of todays hate and the past to Jews. speak easy Jul 2021 #33

Genocide versus enslavement? MyMission Jul 2021 #47

K&r DesertRat Jul 2021 #16

It also doesn't happen becsuse Germany got strict with certain things JI7 Jul 2021 #17

I have heard that Holicaust denial wnylib Jul 2021 #42

It certainly is a crime in Germany, in certain circumstances. Jedi Guy Jul 2021 #63

But, fortunately, it does fly in Germany. wnylib Jul 2021 #70

In the context of Germany, its past, and its struggles to come to terms with that past, sure. Jedi Guy Jul 2021 #72

Yes, the union tried to accommodate the confederacy, whereas Germany totally repudiated Nazism. thesquanderer Jul 2021 #58

"whereas Germany totally repudiated Nazism." Jedi Guy Jul 2021 #64

My best friend's grandfather was a brownshirt Blaukraut Jul 2021 #20

My wife's father was drafted into the Wehrmacht at 17, sent to Stalingrad as Kanonenfutter at 18 DFW Jul 2021 #26

Interesting stories. thucythucy Jul 2021 #43

Your impression was accurate DFW Jul 2021 #46

Yeah, East Germany preferred to pretend they had no responsibility in the matter. Jedi Guy Jul 2021 #65

The Stasi was an institution for intelligent, cruel people. DFW Jul 2021 #67

Yeah, the Stasi were arguably the most effective (and therefore worst) secret police in history. Jedi Guy Jul 2021 #68

The film is really incredible DFW Jul 2021 #69

Wow, that's crazy. Absolutely no doubt why she self-deleted after the Wall fell. Jedi Guy Jul 2021 #71

Maybe he figured his girlfriend was too insgnificant to hold back, I couldn't tell you DFW Jul 2021 #73

It must have been so cool to witness that, given its significance both then and later. Jedi Guy Jul 2021 #74

We had friends in East Berlin in the seventies. DFW Jul 2021 #76

I agree. JohnnyRingo Jul 2021 #21

I've been around the world. Several times, lol... WarGamer Jul 2021 #23

My family was once at a gathering in the USA where the teenagers were to talk about their heroes DFW Jul 2021 #31

that's really cool... thanks! WarGamer Jul 2021 #35

Not to mention our own century plus of glorifying assorted war criminals and slavers thucythucy Jul 2021 #44

This message was self-deleted by its author ShazzieB Jul 2021 #24

I don't think there's BGBD Jul 2021 #34

Sure there is... WarGamer Jul 2021 #36

OK, a few examples BGBD Jul 2021 #38

yep uponit7771 Jul 2021 #39

With the possible exception of the Russian Civil War thucythucy Jul 2021 #45

A victor of the Whites BGBD Jul 2021 #50

I was in St. Petersburg and Moscow thucythucy Jul 2021 #53

I agree BGBD Jul 2021 #54

thanks for the discussion, I truly appreciate it. WarGamer Jul 2021 #62

I'm disgusted in every possible way by worship of the Confederacy. Progressive Jones Jul 2021 #37

... Behind the Aegis Jul 2021 #41

Not to mention . . . . Richard D Jul 2021 #48

The Motherland statute still stands unaltered in Kyiv, Ukraine. Tommy Carcetti Jul 2021 #49

Thinking about this more.... BGBD Jul 2021 #51

Never compare these two atrocities toughtony Jul 2021 #57

No it does not. nt sheshe2 Jul 2021 #60

Disagree 100%, both groups were systematically dehumanized in extreme ways uponit7771 Jul 2021 #75

Do you know lsewpershad Jul 2021 #59

Recommended. H2O Man Jul 2021 #61